Chinese Type 99 Tank – Newest Armor of China

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Type 99Western forces beware, the Chinese have fielded the most advanced tank yet! Well, only the most advanced in China that is. Following in the ancient Chinese tradition of quantity over quality and cheap products, the Chinese have developed their own 3rd generation battle tank that they believe is the answer to the Western nations’ superior tank designs. Likewise, they also used their other ancient tradition of ripping off western designs to compensate for their lack of engineering ability in the design of this tank. Yes, the Type 99 tank does possess many up-to-date gimmicks like a laser awareness system to locate the direction of shots fired at it (hmmm….) assuming they don’t destroy it first I guess, and it can also be used to scramble an enemy tank’s optics, I guess again under the assumption that the enemy tank’s optics weren’t used to target and then subsequently destroy it. Among other criticisms laid down by numerous armor enthusiasts, observe the area located directly under the turret, how the armor is concave rather than convex, this design renders this area a “shot trap”, which is a serious design blunder that increases vulnerability to frontal fire, the most common in a tank-on-tank battle. A shot could also jam the turret in this area even if it didn’t destroy the tank or kill it’s occupants. All in all, the Chinese have successfully developed a tank that rivals the western designs in speed, electronics, and almost there with the armor, but they still fall short in the overall design having not had any modern experience with tanks in battle.

Posted by Andrew   @   13 December 2007 167 comments
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Dec 13, 2007
4:02 pm
#1 Jason :

May be new way try get poplation control.One child law back fire on chiness goverement.So may govrement major war used overwhelem these weak tanks

Dec 20, 2007
8:19 pm
#2 zane platt :

nuke the gook

Jan 4, 2008
10:25 pm

“Ripped off, Quantity not quality, lack of engineering skill etc., etc.”. Don’t knock a potential enemy’s weapons systems until you have an opportunity to test them in depth. To do so could be fatal. The item most responsible for American deaths in Afghanistan/Iraq are jury rigged IED’s probably built in someones goat stable.

Jan 30, 2008
12:37 pm
#4 crankitup :

the design may be rubbish but lets face facts, if we went to war, then it’s numbers. Just look what happened in WW2, the Germans had far better tanks than the allies, yet the allies mass produced the sherman, which lets face it was rubbish when compared to the Germans tanks, but because we had bigger numbers we won the day.

So in summary, yeah on a even playing field, this tank will get it’s arse kicked, but when you’re dealing with these kind of numbers, well, you better have some pretty damn amazing tanks that can take on those odds.

Feb 12, 2008
1:38 am
#5 D-man :

No wonder their equipment is getting better. They come here for school, work here in the defence industry send our secrets home. Who is stupid here? I don’t trust them. It’s just a matter of time.

Feb 19, 2008
7:14 am
#6 Andy :

ah finally someone can stand up to the imperialist dogs. Too bad Iraq and Afghanistan didn’t have the same capabilities.

Mar 28, 2008
4:19 pm
#7 BLOO :

Shermans were extremely reliable and extremely easy to maintain, unlike the nearly impossible to service and breakage prone German heavy field units. China cannot stand up to our military, nor could the entire world united at the present condition of global forces. Calling these tanks trash though is probably a mistake. The educational system in China far outpaces our own. Oh, Andy? The English were imperialist dogs. For better or worse, we are your masters.

Apr 23, 2008
11:05 pm
#8 Brad :

“EU could kick american’s scrawny army in 1 day!
Americans are morons…. you use piece of crap guns… (m4’s and m16’s) and your soldiers aren’t real men. They are only high school graduates paying for college.”

You got us there, chief.

But, considering we’d be fighting in Europe as the EU cannot even bus a company of grunts to Oktoberfest for snitzels and Perrier without American transport, I still think America would come out on top.

May 7, 2008
3:33 am
#9 Tyler :

Guys… I understand what you’re trying to say, and I’m sure you’ve done extensive research on this, but the best tank in the world and being upgraded even now into a new model is the M1A2 Abram. Read up on it sometime: This thing took an explosive that had the force to FLIP IT, and rolled over and kept going. Seriously. It can survive multiple shots, 3-4 point blank range, the new model has a host of upgrades, including a turret controlled without exposure, as well as an open turret, uses EXTREMELY powerful rounds. Now! The valid opposition: IED’s. Well, those are difficult, aren’t they. They don’t tell you about how many times the Abrams have taken IED’s and continued on, right? Of course not. When they do penetrate, they’re absolutely pointblank through the treads. Who here as ever seen an Abram take an IED from the front? No? That’s because if they’re ever shown against IED’s, they’re always coming in through the treads.
Feel free to dispute me, I’m open to new ideas – these are merely my opinion.
Oh, and Brad – the EU is made up of 27 nations, dude. I think that’s a little lopsided. Not saying we would go down easily, no, you’re in for quite a suprise – we hold the most advanced technology in the world, well, again, in my opinion. Feel free to dispute.
By the way – the M16 is one of the best rifles in the world, and the M468 is only beaten by the AK in the ability to drag it’s sorry ass through mud and fire the weapon. Which is cool – always a nice design feature. And the army accepts yearly 10% of high school dropouts as part of it’s recruitment schedule, while the marines accept less than a percent. Don’t knock them – they’re out fighting and dying and damn it, they deserve your respect, you little crap.

May 7, 2008
3:35 am
#10 Tyler :

My bad – didn’t read the last part of your post – sorry I got a little heated there. I have the greatest of respect for the marines and the army, and I would hope that you understand their level of skill and ability.

May 7, 2008
3:38 am
#11 Tyler :

Sorry about the triple, but one last point of evidence – this is the m4 here… and the M468 is much, much better. Read up on it – it’s hilariously awesome.

Unless I’m wrong, this is QED, as the AK has power, which the m468 has, but no range, which the m468 has.

May 15, 2008
10:52 pm
#12 Kazaman :

“EU could kick american’s scrawny army in 1 day!
Americans are morons…. you use piece of crap guns… (m4’s and m16’s) and your soldiers aren’t real men. They are only high school graduates paying for college.”

2 things, m4 is a good rifle, pretty damn decent.
Another thing, yeah, the americans are paying for college, but they are real men, they died for eurotrash people like you during the cold war.
Enjoy your “army” eurotrash.

May 25, 2008
11:15 am
#13 banzai :

China doesn’t need this tank, simple cheap IED can kill all american tanks easily. That’s american quality for you. No wonder their cars are crappy too.

Jul 4, 2008
3:27 pm
#14 gibbs :

Hey Brad. Show a little gratitude to the American military. Europe (and Japan, also) would be a very different place right now if it weren’t for us. The M-16 is a piece of crap? In the beginning, perhaps. But the current rendition is the western world standard of measure. Not as jam-proof as an AK, but better in almost every other respect. Remember, the Russians change calibers because of the M-16.

Jul 4, 2008
3:31 pm
#15 gibbs :

Hey Banzai. If IEDs can kill American tanks, what do you think they will do to yours…or anyone else’s? And yes, we can make IEDs also if it comes to that. Hi tech IEDs. A contradiction of terms, perhaps, but improvisation can get hi tech like any else.

Jul 4, 2008
3:42 pm
#16 gibbs :

It’s funny. People all over the world down us Americans. Those same people call us first for help. They love our money, music, movies and marboros…but hate us. Go figure. We are not perfect, but no more imperfect than anyone else. We certainly do not have anymore dirt under our rug than you Europeans. We had to come over twice to save you from each other, and stayed 50 plus yrs to keep it from happening a 3rd time. You could have had the Russians instead of us. Remember that.

Jul 6, 2008
9:30 pm
#17 Andrew :

The US does have hi tech IEDs, I saw them on future weapons recently. I’ll write an article about them soon. They can see detect whether incoming tanks are friendlies or not, and shoots out a flying shape charge disc similar to the ones used in the sensor-fused weapon, which also has an article on this site.

Jul 10, 2008
2:59 am
#18 Fred :

Hey… Just putting some thoughts in … The M16/M4 series weapons aren’t as good as they should be… I personally would prefer a FNC or a Hk416. The AK seems to be more reliable… If not less accurate. The M16/M4 series win in accuracy and a better caliber with the AK but compared to the Sako/Valmet Ak rifles which are made in both 5.56mm and 7.62mm they still underperform. What the US needs to do with the M16/M4 rifles is to upgrade them to an HK416 level and add red dot rights to them. I love America, which is why I think we should improve our small arms.

Jul 10, 2008
3:14 am
#19 Fred :

On what gibbs said, what you say is actually quite right… I came from Indonesia where everyone hated the US but loved US Dollars, Weapons, and Culture. Most of the world is that way except Europe at the current situation. Europe is at a state where they have their own culture, Their militaries are somewhat better equipped than the US and their euros are worth more. On the other hand, their culture seems to be people in skintight pants, Eurodance music, and IKEA. Their weapons also seem too expensive and aren’t too battle tested. And their Euro’s are too overvalued leading the Euro using nations to outsource to eastern Europe The US is still at the top in my opinion.

Jul 19, 2008
11:58 pm
#20 Cammarade pablo :

i dont hate americans but i hate them hawkish republicans…
i have a lot of friend in the united states but about the usa’sarmy …i hate it too, i like more the rusia and german weaponry

Jul 24, 2008
8:42 am
#21 rexregum :

What’s up with the people in here? After all the nationalistic rah-rah it seems that after years of nationhood people still don’t know how to treat each other human beings with basic decency.

Respect the soldiers, your beef is with the politicans.

Jul 31, 2008
9:24 am
#22 a :

future firepower is full of propaganda bull-shit. this site, like hollywood movies, is a cooking pot of american political propaganda for psychological warfare. the idea is simple: try to make everyone believe you are better than what you really are. this is the first step in any aggressive move: the psychological advantage relative to the adversary through intense advertising. that’s why america has to add sugar to their words in front of the global media and to reinforce their own morale between americans. propaganda for outsiders and propaganda of consolidation for insiders. it extendes from the movies to the video games. noticeable american propaganda. here you fail if you try to make me believe whatever on ‘american hi-tech weaponry’. the only thing missing here is for someone to point out the trash that are american engineered products like windows vista. I don’t know how reliable are unclassified weapons information, but there are Vista things that I can see by myself.

Jul 31, 2008
10:19 am
#23 a :

the americans went to the two world wars because they were scared to shit about the eventuality of an eurasian superstate. american politicians don’t really care about the wellbeing of people elsewhere. they don’t even do much about poverty in america, are you going to convince me that they care about freedom in other parts of the world?
also, american marines are not Men, they are mercenaries. they kill for the pay, and they would kill anyone no matter if they were saints or the devil. if a soldier doesn’t do so, they would be charged with mutiny and end up in a court martial. how do you distinguish a 5 year old kid from an enemy soldier when you fire artillery shells and cruise missile in the middle of Bagdad. these american marines are murderers under pay. what’s the difference between a street criminal and a soldier: that the soldier is sponsored by the state. but they are essentially killers under contract, not heroes. real Men stand on their own. they have honesty and integrity and are transparent because they have nothing to fear. with the enemies america has made, I think their marines have a lot to fear (call for air support!). and they definetely fear a shot in the head. they are not Men, they are a pack of soft and vulnerable kids.

Jul 31, 2008
10:29 am
#24 a :

the english may be imperialists, but ?we?, whoever I am, we are more imperialists than anyone else on earth. and the interesting thing is, no english really knew!

Aug 27, 2008
11:09 pm
#25 whopper :

The author of this website should try to be a little more professional and write about weapons without all the racial slurs.

Aug 28, 2008
3:10 am
#26 Capt. :

Where do you see any racial slurs? I would be happy to remove them if you could point them out.

Oct 17, 2008
11:36 pm
#27 Cj :

What is up with all this hating America crap? i happen to agree with europe’s own assessment that all of europe could not win a war against America, but lets not find out shall we? there are more important people to fight, like the terrorists. Okay?

Oct 18, 2008
3:52 pm
#28 Cj :

A, i will kick your ass if you insult America again, America went to Europe twice to save your lousy asses, so watch it, we might do it again

Oct 18, 2008
3:53 pm
#29 Cj :

Oh, and 1 more thing, the USMC is the best fighting unit on earth, why do you think the SAS asks for Marine help when things go bad

Nov 20, 2008
10:47 pm
#30 O'conner :

you are all retards the marines suck and are over rated, amercia is losing in there wars. Its the end of amercia, history always repeats its self the soviet union invade afganastan and there contry failed. this will happen to the usa, and plus quanty is better than quality remmber ww2 3 shermans to take down 1 tiger. but there were more shermans than tigers

Dec 14, 2008
5:29 pm
#31 michael :

America saved western europe in world war 2 who today has limited capabilities of exerting their force throughout the world if they can at all. but more seariously, china is slowly improving their armed forces even if they must learn from others.kindov sad how they developed the use of gunpowder with other revolutionary military technologies and yet they lag behindeven once was a naval superpower under a certain ming emporor until he passsed away and the ignorant conservative eunuchsscrapped their navy entirly and secularized their state. america wont stay on top foreveras all nations rise then fall. quantity has advantages and so do quality. but fools rely on sheer numbers. russia tried that in their pre world war 2 war with finland and the results were disasterous.

Dec 15, 2008
12:44 am
#32 michael :

I am tired of ignora nt idiots badmouthing america and uplifting evil corrupted regimes. I hated america under bush and the republicans for their bullcrap yet i hear stupid shit from uneducated and unlearned idiots? damn read details on history and learn how our world is hell full of evil. it cant be blammed on america. Its just jealousy. china under communist leadership is a ruthless tyrant against any who try to stand up to it. So called islamic regimes murder and massacare more muslims than america ever did. europe stands idle while innocents sufffer. nobody knows of the horrendous genocides the japanese did in china in world war 2. nobody cares about shit, only as long as they wealthy. none cares about the racially encouraged murders rapes and genocides the arabs done in the sudan in darfur, none care bought the arab invasion of arabia when the arabs tried to eliminate the persian culture and erase their hitory, none care of the western nations primary responsibibnlity of how we all encouraged such hatred and extremismm by supporting corrupt governments and exploiting foreign lands to make profits at the natives expence. fuck you all, i hope this piece of shit corrupted world falls into chaos as all of you so damn ignorant. america is just as responsible as those overzealous religious fanatical idiotic religious retards who kill in allahs name. humanity cant care about suffering of others or the damage we do to our home world. americas not better than any nation and rest of world has no right demonizing us to cover up the evil and hipocracy of their own nations. being called murderers in iraq? I’d kill an entire city of civilians if it meant i could get back home alive. WHy should i die in a foreign land where we are hated by an entire population scheming for our deaths over a srtupid war a corrupt idiotic president representing his equally retarded country for electing him who hasnt learned of the republicans bullshit and buy into religious propaganda and cant make a stand when theirs misjustice. I had to rant and rave as i am seariously pissed at such ignorance.

Jan 25, 2009
9:45 pm
#33 armorfan79 :

It is sad that this article ends up again with China-bashing, US-bashing and so on.
Why can some people not read an article as it is?
You start dissing a product because of a country’s origin you even don’t know well?
I feel pity for them who have been totally brainwashed by the propaganda of their own nation.
I guess you guys must have a hardlife and too much time off to spread prejudices and hatred sentiments.
Are you different to any propaganda speakers like Goebbels or the preachers of the islamic extremists?

Feb 12, 2009
6:17 pm
#34 armorfan79 :

i think most esterners are just too arrogant, ignorrant or blind to recognize/admit that others can catch up. Remember about the times when westerners were looking down at Japanese electronics and cars.

Mar 16, 2009
3:31 pm
#35 darkknights :

yes i agree on the tanks and numbers but you can’t honestly think that everyone is stupid i mean yes they might think something like that might happen and plan to counter it with something different . i have just recently learned of new age machine gun weaponry called metal storm and the fact it can destroy alot of stuff very easily and with little trouble seeing that it can fire about 16,000 bullet in a second and alot of big gernads in large amounts it could be easily used for multiple uses from air defense to ground and even sea defense for destroying cruise missles and torpedos and even mines . it can even take a whole barrage of tanks with no trouble. so i say the us it still in the lead whatever they may get or trade or create ina notehr country there will be something better coming out over here and something that can deal with it if need in some crazy future.

Mar 16, 2009
3:38 pm
#36 darkknights :

us still went to the moon first and no can ever change it so were always gona be technologically superior and don’t ever forget it .

Mar 20, 2009
12:39 pm
#37 Makka :

Metal Storm is an Australian invention!

Apr 10, 2009
8:32 am
#38 alex :

well, the people say qauntity over quality is what will win, well the us has both, the u.s. has 10,000 abrams tanks… that is quantity, also the abrams is the world best tank and is battle proven,

Apr 14, 2009
10:19 pm
#39 Dmo :

Tanks are nothing more than crowd control now, advanced missile systems have rendered the tank nearly obsolete in conventional modern warfare. With f-22 and f-35 fighters being produced now, any military that relies on tanks is very vulnerable.

Apr 28, 2009
5:16 am
#40 Bear :

The key to technology and military is simply economy.
The U.S. are strong because of their superior economy.
We’ll see how long that will last with China dominating the world’s manufacture and soon, technology (ripped off from the west or not that does not matter).

Apr 30, 2009
6:08 pm
#41 philonetic :

Makka it was only developed and tested in Aus m8, it’s a usa corporate invention, so is TROPHY.

May 2, 2009
8:37 pm
#42 Michael :

Sorry for my earlier comment, was bit annoyed. Refering to the main article, this new tank built by china is an improvement over their prior designs but still no mach for westen tanks. Well, if its electonics and engineering are good with a strong enough cannon, it might be good enough for its intended uses

May 8, 2009
4:27 pm
#43 Robert :

What is wrong with Europe. Im talking to all of you who said the marine corp sucks. With out our marine corp and d-day yall would be miserable rats living under a nazis regime. How about a little thanks. And again dont down a soldier if your not one yourself. Also Im sorry if I sound like a Europe basher I just cant stand all of this US hate stuff its not like we are evil or anything. China may be the next super power but the american spirit will always be a super power.

Jun 16, 2009
2:11 pm
#44 wentworth :

Everything take time to evolve… most of the modern warfare will be conducted within cities rather than open battlefields… China is not USA’s main threat… also the Type 99 is only fielded in limited numbers, the Type 96G is the most common MBT in China, with upgraded armour and electronics it is just as effective as the M1A1……. the DU armour is something China would like to replicate, but there is not enough DU from nuclear energy plant to serve such purposes.

Without an effective air defense, tanks are sitting ducks for helicopter gunship, a hellfire equivalent tandem HEAT missile will make any modern armour useless. Also did anyone notice that US is moving away from building heavier and heavier MBT tanks, but they are concentrating their efforts on mobile fighting vehicles with large caliber guns…… MBT in afghanistan is useless, in desert it is useless, in a muddy area it is useless…. because it is immobilised by its own weight…..

Abram tanks is boggled down by its turbine engine, which guzzles fuel at an amazing rate, if it can’t refuelled then it is useless…… also it needs a Boeing Globemaster III to move it…

People all boast about the killing power of various tanks, maybe they should boast about the government support for student scholarship whom wants to further educate themselves….

i mean instead of spending endless amount of money fighting wars, wouldn’t it be better to give better education and health care to your citizens…. just a thought ppl.

Jul 13, 2009
8:02 am
#45 Steelghost50 :

Regaurding this interesting article: I like how your view of another countries tradtions, it gave this article a bit more flavour, although invoking many negative responses. This new tank could be a threat if they rely on that old ww2 tactic all of us war enthusiasts know with the shermans and tigers. If you think about it, optical jamming and shot sensing capabilities seem rather fit for a tank that takes the field with numbers, They would be able to effectively control the battlefield with this tactic, the only thing they may not have that many overlook is accuracy range, firepower and reload time that one tank already has. Unfortunately for this global announcement of chinese military capability( * thats just about all this time period is, is an arms race and display of who “thinks” they are greater *) there exists american made tank predators other then the Abrams. Consider the A-10 thunderbolt, or the AH-64 apache longbow. These crafts were created in the sole purpose of defeating an invasion of tanks. If you didnt already know, the AH-64 was developed in response to the russian “t” series tanks that may have ran over most of Europe. With this developement of a new cheap mas made chinese tank, you could predict the future intentions of China. It is a great addition to their best ground military force due to numbers along with weapons and armour that get the job done, i do not think anyone other then russia would have even a chance of matching America’s air supieriority.

to all foreign haters of America that posted nothing related to this article.
You are inexperianced in war and would have the decency and honor to regaurd the “enemy” as a formidable opponent. As many others said we saved your ass from others, although it was only a secondary objective, first being establishing control. I could only guess that your hatred for this prosperous land comes from jealousy. Yes you can call us stupid, like our president, i would have to agree that a good number of us are in fact gorged on the safety are carelessness inside the country. But do you honestly think america became what it is now from our general public? You see above all other countries, the U.S. loves war, they have to make excuses to be in war. Becaus of that reason alone we will be dominant in military. You arrogant fools lecture us about being driven by media and politics and the ironic thing is you fail to see yourself doing the same. Not even the public know of advanced tech kept underwraps that were started back in the 90’s. Hell, the F-22 project began in the 80’s. this in only the tip of the iceburg america represents. When you think you can say who will die, consider all of the facts.

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Jul 13, 2009
8:41 am
#46 Steelghost50 :

Regaurding this interesting article: I like how your view of another countries tradtions, it gave this article a bit more flavour, although invoking many negative responses. This new tank could be a threat if they rely on that old ww2 tactic all of us war enthusiasts know with the shermans and tigers. If you think about it, optical jamming and shot sensing capabilities seem rather fit for a tank that takes the field with numbers, They would be able to effectively control the battlefield with this tactic, the only thing they may not have that many overlook is accuracy range, firepower and reload time that one tank already has. Unfortunately for this global announcement of chinese military capability( * thats just about all this time period is, is an arms race and display of who “thinks” they are greater *) there exists american made tank predators other then the Abrams. Consider the A-10 thunderbolt, or the AH-64 apache longbow. These crafts were created in the sole purpose of defeating an invasion of tanks. If you didnt already know, the AH-64 was developed in response to the russian “t” series tanks that may have ran over most of Europe. With this developement of a new cheap mas made chinese tank, you could predict the future intentions of China. It is a great addition to their best ground military force due to numbers along with weapons and armour that get the job done, i do not think anyone other then russia would have even a chance of matching America’s air supieriority.

to all foreign haters of America that posted nothing related to this article.
You are inexperianced in war and wouldnt have the decency and honor to regaurd the “enemy” as a formidable opponent. As many others said we saved your ass from others, although it was only a secondary objective, first being establishing control. I could only guess that your hatred for this prosperous land comes from jealousy. Yes you can call us stupid, like our president, i would have to agree that a good number of us are in fact gorged on the safety are carelessness inside the country. But do you honestly think america became what it is now from our general public? You see above all other countries, the U.S. loves war, they have to make excuses to be in war. Becaus of that reason alone we will be dominant in military. You arrogant fools lecture us about being driven by media and politics and the ironic thing is you fail to see yourself doing the same. Not even the public know of advanced tech kept underwraps that were started back in the 90’s. Hell, the F-22 project began in the 80’s. this is only the tip of the iceburg america represents. When you think you can say who will die, consider all of the facts.

Currently my favorite site for military information and reading.

Jul 19, 2009
5:04 am
#47 DemonHead :

Steelghost50:Of course people would hate america/ american. why? 1. american fags basicly limited the development in europe/asia/middle east. 2. ripping other country off by selling stock, then bankrupe. 3. without reasoning attack a random country.
Iraq war: ur dipshit Presdents little bush believe iraq have nuclear weapon (what a joke) when the soldiers landed on iraq, they discovered iraq is a poor cheepy country, people were dying on hunger, mlltary only have the technonlogy of during cold war. so why the heck did america keep stapping on those poor iraq people? “Oil” thats why. iraq <— this country contain world’s 1/3 of oil production. if america took control of the country, oil business would basicly control americans. if countries other then america wanted to import oil from iraq, they would pay way more than before the war was started. and f22 is rubbish, which was defeated by a boeing EA-18 growler. also report said because f22 fly an hour could cost 30hours of ground maintince are (40million bucks-older modle f15 only cost 1/6 of f22’s price), the production of f22 would stop at 186. so why should we work with bunch redneck coward americans? huh? the countries who allied with america should stop the relationships, because when u help them**a**** u get nothing but the price of paying ur dead soldiers

Jul 23, 2009
11:08 am
#48 Rod :

Hmm! lets get a few things straight about the USA (i’m no US hater just a historian) First world War: USA enters and send 100’s 0f 1000 of men to fight in Europe requiring the Allies to supply them with guns tanks ammo even uniforms (recognise the “Tommy hats they wore?) the US actually created a crisis by draining equipment from veteran Allied Formations. WW2 USA refuses to aid Britain as she battles alone against the Fascist enemy (actually trading wih Germany and supplying steel for her Battleships and Tanks). At the time the Facists were very popular in the US and most people had an anti British setment. Congress actually fought JFK’s attempts to sell arms (at a profit) to britain at the same time they were selling war materials to the Nazis. USA actually only declares war on Germany AFTER Hitler declares war on America and starts sinking US ships ( Britain by now has fought off invasion and is activly assisting Russia against Hitler). As far as quality verses quantity today the facts are rather situational: if you have vast #’s of troops (China) and a culture that find massive lose of life acceptable if victory is possible , if you have a lower grade facilities for maintenance and battle repairs and a need for fast production and replacement the T99 is for you, the M1 is not. If you have high grade facilities for repair and maintenance a huge well stuffed wallet and a well established military industrial complex capable of supporting the best and most expensive technology available, you might want the M1. Just have a huge and expensive logistic tail in your Army to service them and MASSIVE reserves of fuel to keep them fed. Ohh! yeah fight close to home cause their a bitch to move.

Jul 23, 2009
11:25 am
#49 Rod :

Sorry just a little add on: The excellent armour fielded by the M1, Merkava, Le Clerc, and Lepoard 2 was originally created in Great Britain at the Royal Ordinance labs in the town of Chobham, hence the name “Chobham Armour” Being excellent allies the Brits offered the ivention to Nato members. Each now has its own special “flavour” The USA as a matter of course refused to divulge its “Recipe” to the Brits even though they inventd it. Without the new armour each of these tanks would have vastly reduced defensive capacities. The m1 would be a heavy fuel slugging tinder box, albiet with all the fancy bells and whistles.

Jul 31, 2009
10:00 pm
#50 Eli :

Can I just say a chinese, modern day tank.

Jul 31, 2009
10:05 pm
#51 Eli :

Is what this freaking thing is about.

Aug 8, 2009
3:43 pm
#52 natcaasi :

Just wait till the Chinese develop their own impenetrable armour plating or god forbid steal one from its western rivals and then all it needs are a suitably sturdy chassis and a really big gun turrent/barrel (they could just buy an old Russian battleship …if they still have those around … and just rip one of the turrets from it mounting and fit if onto the tank chassis) and you will have big problem on your hands.
For i think if a tank that can take hit after hit it will only be a matter of time before the other opposing tank is blown wide apart.

Aug 11, 2009
2:55 am
#53 jim :

Why spend millions (possibly billions) on a tank, when a 10 US dollar IED could put the awesomely powerful United States of America into an economical downfall and send them and their allies fleeing from Iraq? The point is: develop evermore powerful and inexpensive ways to counter the threat that american tanks poses, not go into an arms race with them because nobody in the world could beat the americans in an head on arms race, the soviets made an honest effort but failed in the end.

Aug 16, 2009
11:04 pm
#54 卜剑平 :


Sep 12, 2009
1:15 pm
#55 J.T :

Someone need to be reminded that once upon a time “made in Japan” was considered cheap and crap. (And so was “Made in US” before that.) Personally, I find your arrogance and the insulting of our ancient tradition offensive but one cannot expect reasonable things from morons.
Perhaps China’s technology is not as advanced but then again China started on a much lower footing. I am, however, confident that this is only the beginning of a great modernisation that will see the end of U.S supremacy in 30-40 years. I’ve got a good chance of seeing this happen. And if the data regarding your obesity rate and health care access is true, then, I’m afraid you will not. Just as well.

Sep 14, 2009
1:04 pm
#56 chinese :

If you want to know more about china ,may be you shoud go here! Here, everyday every thing change.

Sep 20, 2009
11:38 pm
#57 jmb :

War is not an answer to problems that face humans around the world. Our interest in weapons that other countries develope is becuase we fear that we will one day be occupied by another nation’s laws and yet we all fear our own governments. America has been a major influence in policies throughout the world and most countriess recent it. Its one of the reasons we must show millitary dominance. It is up to our leaders to engage in developing good relationships throughout the world and to encourage its citizens to do the same. My concern is that one day the US will collapse because of the corruption in Washinton and also the corruption in other countries. Who cares about a tank when we have Nukes. Remember this world is just a botton away from total destruction.

Sep 29, 2009
6:36 am
#58 Jerry :

The Chinese drove the UN and US all the way from the Yalu river to South Korea with simple infantry men. guess what they’re gonna do to you with modern weapons AND chinese infantry men? ;-)

You got it, kiss your asses goodbye!

Sep 29, 2009
6:39 am
#59 Jerry :

Btw, notice that “Made in Japan” used to mean crap in the 1960s, and we all know where that ended up. China, unlike the US, has the money to quickly create superior weaponry and equipment. They are the manufacturing center of the world, just like the USA was in the beginning of the 20th century.

Never bet against them commies, they haven’t lost a single war since the founding of the state in 1949.

Sep 29, 2009
9:06 pm

How to Stop Iran Acquiring Nuclear Weapons
© 2009 By Bohdan O. Szuprowicz
The only way is to denuclearize the world. There are no other alternatives despite wishful illusions of some diplomats and politicians. Just look at the map.
Iran is surrounded by nuclear weapon-wielding states and powers. Across the northern horizon, Russia and Kazakhstan had nuclear-weapons for decades throughout the Cold War. There is talk about loose warheads and materials from those areas on the black markets of the world. United States controls Afghanistan in the East and Iraq in the West. This implies nuclear weapons whenever a need arises. U.S. aircraft carriers and submarines armed with nuclear weapons cruise the Persian Gulf to the South and have done so for years.
Pakistan, India, and China, all nuclear powers, loom farther to the East. Syria has known nuclear ambitions and North Korea contacts just to the West of Iraq. Israel, with a nuclear strike force is poised to take out Iran’s nuclear facilities with deep bunker penetration weapons. U.S. Navy, off Lebanon and bases in Turkey, are just minutes of missile flight time away.
You can’t really blame Iranian leadership for feeling somewhat restless and eager to go nuclear. We may not like it, but those are the nuclear geopolitics realities of that region. Nuclear weapons are now symbols of military and national power. Nuclear disarmament is political castration in the geopolitics of the 21st century.
There are over 23,000 nuclear weapons in the world and experts claim disarmament of those could be accomplished in a matter of days. But there are also over 40 conflicts around the world that could escalate into nuclear blackmail if political solutions are not found and those may take years if ever to resolve.
Nuclear testing is used to check out new designs and to send political messages that others pay attention to. South Africa developed nuclear weapons independently although it since gave them up. North Korea demonstrated that you do not have to be a rich and sophisticated country to achieve “nuclear power” status and reap political benefits.
As a result nuclear-armed Iran is a foregone conclusion despite wishful thinking of world leaders or the ineffective decrees of the United Nations. It is futile to imagine that Iran can be talked out of it. Not at this stage, despite public denials of Ahmadinejad himself. And let’s not kid ourselves. His domestic enemies are also proponents of nuclear power for Iran.
Basically, however, it is most unlikely that all the existing nuclear powers and states can be persuaded to give up nuclear weapons. Nuclear powers are here to stay and will certainly proliferate in the future. The more we insist on Iran giving it up the more likely it is to develop its nuclear arsenal. If we prevent it from doing it, Iran may even set up shop abroad in some convenient third world countries where it will be impossible to discover in time. Perhaps in Libya, Hungary or Venezuela. Judging how Poland and Czech Republic were treated recently it could happen anywhere. There are 90 countries that pay lip service to nuclear disarmament but object to inspection of their nuclear development activities. Many may secretly proliferate in the future North Korea style. In 2008 alone over 200 questionable incidents were identified suggestive of questionable if not illegal nuclear materials transactions.
The most terrifying is the potential emergence of stateless nuclear terror groups that may engage in political blackmail in third countries. The “Have Nukes, Will Travel” approach may become standard once nuclear weapons development is mastered by private entities serving the highest bidder. Iran already supports terrorist organizations operating outside its borders. This is why it is critical to watch closely the dealings of Ahmadinejad with Kim-Jong-Il of North Korea, Hugo Chavez of Venezuela, and Raul Castro of Cuba, who are not particular friends of the Unites States. Here is an opportunity for Iran to assist in providing nuclear weapons to other insurgents like the Basques in Spain or the Zapatistas struggling for the independence of the state of Chiapas from Mexico. It would then be simple to blackmail the United States into giving back California, Texas, Arizona and New Mexico to satisfy the long-standing Mexican Reconquista objectives.
The western powers are confronting Iran in its rush to nuclearize its arsenal. Talking to Ahmadinejad will probably be of little use, unlikely to yield an acceptable solution to what already amounts to nuclear blackmail. After all, his political motto “it is doable and we can do it”, seems to keep him in power despite known opposition. His stated objective to wipe Israel off the map needs no comment.
Let’s face it. The world is edging toward nuclear terror. It’s no longer a question of if, but when, where, and how it will happen. America, the hope and envy of the world, is a prime target, but in popular politics nuclear terror as a subject is taboo. There are no clear solutions to protect innocent populations. The visible political players are skirting the issue by paying lip service to unrealistic assumptions and economic sanctions. But there is a growing undercurrent of comprehension among men of vision and even large segments of the population that a new era of nuclear geopolitics is upon us.
If you accept the argument that we are entering a dangerous and unstable nuclear terror and blackmail era, it becomes obvious that traditional political processes are no longer adequate to navigate such unpredictable and treacherous environments. When you listen to the pronouncements of many politicians, you are lulled into the comfort of the traditional democratic process. Nuclear terror geopolitics changes all that. .When suicide bombers are in fashion, suicidal nuclear terrorists may not be far behind.
One thing should be clear, the top 400 to 600 global decision makers, whoever they may be, must be aware that a new era of nuclear geopolitics is upon us. Let us hope that while we have the chance we make sure that suitable experience and strong leadership will come into play to handle the increasingly undemocratic world of the immediate future. Adolescent leadership is just not acceptable. (1011 words)
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Oct 1, 2009
4:50 am
#61 General_Dog :

Ahhhh Jerry…remember the border war in the late 70’s with Vietnam. China pretty much got trashed in that one. I talked to a POW from the Korean War and he told me the only way he got captured was because they ran out of ammo. The Chinese dead was stacked 6 high and they just kept on coming wave after wave.
In any case the FIRSTEST with the MOSTEST wins eventually, no matter what the weapon system is.

Oct 3, 2009
6:28 am

I totally agree with jerry…It is true. SInce 1949, chinese never lost a war since its independence. Infact, US lost 2 wars against chinese already! 1, said by jerry was in korea. The US, were trapped, surrounded…n had to withdraw!! 2, In vietnam….china also won. They chase the US out!!! No offence to the americans though. i really like ur military stuff!!! But one thing is this SITE! its a Racist site that offends other countries military advances!!! But lets just hope we all dont get into world war 3. Who knows, if it does happens…we might be conscritption and have to fight each other, but killing Without a proper reason is never an answer!!!

Oct 5, 2009
11:32 pm
#63 omar :

Hey Gibbs,
World war 2 was won not because of americans – but because of the russians- two thirds of German losses in materials and men were in the eastern front- you useless americans are brainless morons who lap up the crap put out by hollywood . should see photos of abrams tanks blown to pieces in iraq by ieds- same time remember the crap put out by hollywood jews and jew controlled media in u.s. about the Merkava tank- well in 2006 , hezbollah pissed all over the Merkavas with their russian made AT weapons. you americans christaoina dumbasses have yopur heads stuck up your ass while the jews (madoff) strip youir country clean and fuck your mothers and sisters in the ass

Oct 6, 2009
10:09 am
#64 uche :

letz face it u all knw a photocopy can nva compete with its original counterpart.then again something u all must remember is there is certainly strength in numbers.lets not 4get future warz will be fought @ sea and in cities,not open battle to the U.S jst focus on ur air superiority and naval dominance,and leave ur haterz to there opinions.cos as far as am concerned ure still in d lead when it comes to military hardwear…xoxoxoxoxo

Oct 6, 2009
10:13 am
#65 uche :

letz face it u all knw a photocopy can nva compete with its original counterpart.then again something u all must remember is there is certainly strength in numbers.lets not 4get future warz will be fought @ sea and in cities,not open battle to the U.S jst focus on ur air superiority and naval dominance,and leave ur haterz to there opinions.cos as far as am concerned ure still in d lead when it comes to military hardware…xoxoxoxoxo

Oct 6, 2009
12:52 pm
#66 :D :

this is a funny site…..kinda like the mean comments going around!!!! and OMAR!!! haha, i like ur attitude!!! But which side do i choose…..AMERICANS, RUSSIANS, CHINESES, or EUROPEANS!!!!!!!! wat happans if i say, americans are assholes…chinese are cheap bastards>>>> Russians are Bitches….EUropeans are Dick heads!!!…..NOW what….any mean comments….!!!! wooooohhhh!!!!!!

Oct 6, 2009
4:12 pm
#67 uche :

dude seriously uve got a problem,i think u need a psychological re-evaluation.i mean all d site wanted waz ur opinion the military hardware listed, and not u slandering the different races of the world………!!!

Oct 7, 2009
9:28 am
#68 Tiffy :

Chinese tanks rocks…..whooooooo!!!!!!!! Hey ‘:D’ !!! dont u call chinese as cheap bastards!!! chinese rock ok!!! who the hell are u???!! and yes, this site is not for slandering different races moron!!!

Oct 7, 2009
1:32 pm
#69 uche :

yeah!!! tell em tiffy…….u rock:).speaking of which has any of u guyz checkedout the x-51 supersonic cruise missile,i mean a weapon like dat could do maximum damage.think u guyz shuld check it mai opinion it shuld b deployed in2 da missile shield system.or wat do u guyz tink???

Oct 10, 2009
12:57 am
#70 Anon :

So if the Chinese has it, it’s a gimmick. If it’s designed any bit similarly to a tank the Americans posesses, it’s a knock off, and if it has newer technology than the Americans, it’s bashed until Americans announce it as a new technology after minor tweakings and scoff at anyone else who calls it a “knock off”? Please stop the racism, even if you’re just desperately writing to get a pat on the back by a fellow Webmarican who shares the same disgusting mindset as you.

Oct 20, 2009
1:58 am
#71 ffddff :

Omar does have a point,

Rssians help absorbed german advantages in WWII, just as chinese helped absorbed Japanese military in the same war. As any historian can tell you, 80% of all japanese army is in china in WWII. The best troops were basically in china, americans mainly fight with japanese navy and naval airforce, as well as occasional land force stationed in islands/around philippines etc but they are low in numbers compared to fightings on the mainland.

During the 8 year resistance with japan:

The Kuomintang fought in 22 major engagements, most of which involved more than 100,000 troops on both sides, 1,171 minor engagements most of which involved more than 50,000 troops on both sides, and 38,931 skirmishes.

Oct 21, 2009
2:26 am
#72 jamieriase :

its time to let the japanese rearm and rebuild their navy-why should the u.s. continue to subsidize the protection of the japanese home islands. We have enough on our plate now to deal with.

Nov 1, 2009
5:07 am
#73 leloup :

This article is interesting. It is pathetic that confidence in M1A2 has to be established by means of funny (and racist) rhetorics, rather than objective observations.

Nov 9, 2009
2:16 pm
#74 crzivan :

>i do not think anyone other then russia would have even a chance of matching America’s air supieriority.

That true. Russian air defence system are most advanced today,

Nov 10, 2009
8:34 am
#75 Tan :

Dear Friends, there is no need to quarrel about Chinese tanks. We will know the outcome only when there is a war against China. The Chinese opponent will have to think about the whole chinese army, country size and the whole chinese war machine not just tanks alone. Today China is not a pushover that it once was.
World War 3 my friends is inevitable. I am a Christian chinese living in Malaysia. The book of Revelations in the Bible gives a horrifying account of what is to come. Read the Bible my friends-what God has said will come unless you are not a Chiristian then maybe you don’t feel this urgency.

Nov 12, 2009
2:01 am
#76 Michael :

China is improving their military rapidly and watching a video on You tube about future chinese military weapons, they got a lot of prototypes that closely resemble american military weapons. most likely they stole it form us. i have great respect for china but not really for current govnm. there. I rather we no go to war with them but cooprerate with them. I did learn that they been linked to selling weapons to the sudanese government whos been using them in their genocide against the people of Darfur

Nov 19, 2009
6:07 pm
#77 George T. :

No matter how good a tank is super armor or whatever, without infantry support it’s just a sitting duck. A molotov cocktail can knockout a tank. Break the tank tracks and it’s a sitting duck.

Nov 26, 2009
9:23 pm
#78 rus :

China is the one country that regularly blocks intervention on the UN, and has a policy of non-intrusive military action. And before you all harp on about Nepal ALL western countries have that bit of disputed territory. And ALL western governments engage in proper-gander and censorship, just done more subtly and hidden in a cloak of legal garbage. Racism and slander is for the uneducated,uninformed or foolishly arrogant. As for the tank yeah it has its flaws but its all getting better. Like all Chinese kit why not copy the best – the west should see it as a compliment. Lets face it its the west that starts wars and sabre rattles. As for God, no book of stories can shed light on the future. Religion should be banned as it facilitates,escalates and prolongs war!!

Nov 30, 2009
6:25 pm
#79 sartte :

more crap that the chinese made from copying someone else.

Jan 6, 2010
7:42 pm
#80 Jason :

China will not go to war with the US. If we dont fill Walmart with their cheap toxic garbage; they will go broke in 3 days. You dont kill the cash cow…. next is this. China has a large mostly unmechanized military and if it was mechanized it cant go anywhere as there is no way in hell it is getting past the US Navy… nevr ever. yes they would win a ground war IN CHINA but outside of their borders… forget it. They will be pummeled from a distance.

Jan 11, 2010
9:06 am
#81 crzivan :

All Chinese tanks are based on Soviet technology. You can see similar design to T-72 series on Chinese tanks.

Jan 14, 2010
7:47 pm
#82 howard :

to the few comments about the EU and Eurotrash
and the like… don’t forget that a majority of the
families in the USA trace their history to the EU
within a few generations.
most of the US are actually EU-USites.
we have so darn much in common it’s not funny.

the biggest thing we have in common is bad
politics. you have to ask yourself, is there
a war in the last few hundred years or so that
has been started by anyone except a politician
and has not been stopped with the blood of the
common people?

as to Chinese tanks… the real enemy of the Chinese military
political system is the Chinese people. keeping them in
control has got to be the biggest job any commie ever had.

Jan 23, 2010
7:13 am
#83 from Chinese :

hah, chinese is rely on world’s market but vice versa.
and.. what many of us wanna say is…
many EU cities are really called “un-developed” compared to my city in china.
i finished my university education in united kingdom,
guess what we call UK? “a big farm” – by many chinese students.
chinese gov are not going to start a war with US for sure,
because there is not profitable to both sides,
and meanwhile i doubt if there is any foreign gov could rule 1.3 billion people as our gov do.

Feb 28, 2010
10:43 am
#84 夏令 :

Americans are always so arrogant. One day we will conquer you.

Mar 7, 2010
11:25 pm
#85 conner :


Mar 7, 2010
11:34 pm
#86 conner :

oh yeah and J.T you’ve poisoned your country so badly i don’t think your people will last very long not to mention that because your birth rate is so low and you have a high infanticide rate i doubt you guys will be much of a threat. Not to mention that you cant trust anything the Chinese government says. they only tell you what they want you to hear. try and search tyaniman square on a Chinese search engine. it wont show up and/or it will say that your not allowed to look at this. i have to admit however that i think the Chinese culture is a very rich and amazing culture. I have a lot of respect for the Chinese but i just cant help but feel sorry for them.

Mar 23, 2010
7:40 am
#87 Exterminans :

hahaha …. all you chinese dipshits are morons , in a few years automation will replace all of the us’ industrial manual labor needs and then all of china’s economy will sink to Tartarus (yeah , so low it’s hell) which will further result to 1.3 billion (1.8 perhaps in the future) chinese faggots and sluts getting hungry because they can’t farm their own land as they practically poisoned it and sleeping in one of these large pieces of garbage cans and waiting for US AID to come

yeah fuck off morons .

Mar 23, 2010
7:44 am
#88 Exterminans :

Also , this “tank” is a JOKE , maybe the REAL tank designers are laughing their dicks off seeing this piece of copycat “tank” made by their incompetent chinese counterparts .

I love the internet!

Mar 23, 2010
4:44 pm
#89 boomq :

Dear god… SIGH…

ITs a talk about a tank. Why does it always come down to foriengers europeans and americans always whopping their dicks out for a size up?

A tank…talk…

On the current subject though. The states came into ww1 very, very late, onlt half a million or so, very late on and the war was already won just finished quicker. And they didnt come to save us lol, they came cos a uboat sunk a load of yanks and us brits on a brit cruise liner….and so went to war on public opinion.

ww2. America again came in late, and did really really help. A small country like the UK was fighting on but had been from the begining when all others had fallen over against a much larger force. They did help very much, but they didnt save the war. Russia would have pumled Germany in short order no matter what, no one can argue that, although they did help create a barrier in berlin.

Its insulting to slur the Americans, the russians, the chinese. and yo uknow what my american cousins, it insulting when yo urefer to all of us as europeans… and that yo usaved us…lol Try being there from the beggining for once ;-p

Remember, the brits and others that helped save your arse in Korea and the brits dutch and australians in Vietnam… and so on and the brits in the worse parts of iraq and afganistan now, when we have better st fighting practiuce and so get put in to the shitty dangerous towns etc…

It works both ways. We all have our crossed to bare and all have helped/been helped in the past.

THink of the chinese resistance against japan and the other nations helping to continue diverting resources from japan when yo udeclared war on them.
China remember the brits and americans and australians and indians and many more that went to was with japan and eventually helped liberate your people..

Russia, rmember all the volunteers and equipment sent by the brits (who had nothing to give) and the yanks when yo uwere being crushed by germany in the start.

All remember the sheer amount of russians and slavs that died, without wich the ww2 would have resulted differently.

And ofcourse all the germans, italians, Japanese who died for their countries.
You all can be very idiotic insulting fools sometimes and should grow up.

Now can qwe please get back to actually talking about the tank….


Mar 24, 2010
2:12 am
#90 夏令 :

In the future , every people will living in a communist society, the U.S. capitalist society will be replaced..This is a historical trend of development

Mar 25, 2010
9:39 am
#91 boomq :

oh god…no one gets it do they

its a bloody tank…talk about the bloody tank, yo ubloody narrow minded idiots.

Mar 25, 2010
9:41 am
#92 boomq :

oh dear god…no one gets it do they

its a bloody tank…talk about the bloody tank, you bloody narrow minded idiots.

Mar 27, 2010
12:34 am
#93 Paul :

Quantity over quality isn’t an ancient Chinese tradition and stealing western designs is also something that China started quite recently. The quantity over quality policy appeared after 1949 when the communists took over. The western inspiration tradition appeared after 1949 also, the communists copied both soviet and western designs trying to incorporate high technology into their tanks.

Apr 8, 2010
7:26 pm
#94 Zone_Ops :

Hey, if the Chinese can develop nukes, satellites, and ICBMs by their own (Sino-Soviet split, remember?) why can’t they develop a tank that can stand up to modern western tanks? Besides, their “quantity over quality” is mostly misunderstood in the west. Take something like the Korean War, the Chinese didn’t have that much people, they just concentrate their forces against relatively weaker Allied positions, combine it with guerallia tactics, and teat away our troops bit by bit… and of course, our media described it as “human wave” to cover up our faliures. Trust me, a relative of mine served at that time.

Also, the PLA is usually very adapt at exploit their enemy’s weakness, and are masters fighting an asymmetric warfares, WITHOUT THE “HUMAN WAVES” example, at the start of the Chinese Civil War, the Communists were both inferior by equipments and numbers, yet they still managed to defeat they US backed Nationalists…

Apr 10, 2010
4:19 am
#95 stealthapostle :

He who lives by the sword will perish by the sword. And yes, David, witha slingshot, toppled the imperialist Goliath. And Judas Macabeus routed all his more powerful enemies:

1 Maccabees – Chapter 3

2 When he reached the ascent of Beth-horon, Judas went out to meet him with a few men.
But when they saw the army coming against them, they said to Judas: “How can we, few as we are, fight such a mighty host as this? Besides, we are weak today from fasting.”
But Judas said: “It is easy for many to be overcome by a few; in the sight of Heaven there is no difference between deliverance by many or by few;
for victory in war does not depend upon the size of the army, but on strength that comes from Heaven.
With great presumption and lawlessness they come against us to destroy us and our wives and children and to despoil us;
but we are fighting for our lives and our laws.
3 He himself will crush them before us; so do not be afraid of them.”
When he finished speaking, he rushed suddenly upon Seron and his army, who were crushed before him.
4 He pursued Seron down the descent of Beth-horon into the plain. About eight hundred of their men fell, and the rest fled to the country of the Philistines.
Then Judas and his brothers began to be feared, and dread fell upon the Gentiles about them.
His fame reached the king, and all the Gentiles talked about the battles of Judas.

Unfortunately, after struggling with Nazi and Gestapo power, the allies themselves are acting no different than them, except on much larger global scale, and ironically China plays the role of the Maccabees who wants to keep their heritage and civilization against American hegemony [America wants eveyone to talk English and adopt their Hollywood culture of death…and then demand ‘God bless America while they murder their own future generation in the womb!].

Americans are ruled and governed by powers they don’t know! Americans are their greatest enemies – they are defeating and vanquishing themselves, making China and Russa curious why they [the Americans] are doing this to themselves!

Apr 17, 2010
9:14 am
#96 Bonjo :

Suck my dick all of you! Black, white, yellow and red! Doesn’t matter where are ya from suck it, suck it haaaard!!!

Apr 21, 2010
3:48 am
#97 Australian :

While there are aspects of America that I don’t like (and there are aspects of any country that we don’t like), there is no doubt that US military is the best in the world. In terms of numbers and technology (10 Aircraft carriers and ground based F22 raptors, stealth bombers, seawolf class nuclear attack submarines, and Virginia class nuclear attack submarines, not to mention spy satellites and ELINT capabilities that surely is superior to anything that the rest of the world has, if only it can be unleashed given that US has far superior supercomputing power than anywhere else in the world), US will be able to defeat EU in a conventional war.

EU has no ability to project their force beyond their shores, and if they tried, most of their navies will be sunk within 72 hours by a combination of US attack jets, cruise missiles, and US attack submarines…

So war will be fought in Europe, and even if US was to attack at a distance with their 10 aircraft carriers, they will be able to destroy their air force and airfields, destroy their command structures, and destroy their oil, food, electricity and water supplies, thus starving Europe slowly.

Europe’s land army will not come into equation, until US decides to strike anywhere they choose with their marines.

Despite all the problems in US, and troubles that they have caused around the world, US has protected Australia and numerous other countries in this world from aggressors. We only enjoy our high standard of living and freedom because of US. For that we should be thankful, and respectful for US, rather than bagging them out at any opportunity. If US was to suddenly declare that they will pull out of Japan, Korea, Europe and other countries and have nothing to do with them, what will happen to this world? It will be open season for war, and opportunists such as North Korea, China, Russia, and Iran will wage war.

Apr 21, 2010
4:00 am
#98 Australian :

The other thing is that US has a unified command structure, while EU has multiple miliary units, all coming from different countries, different languages, and different systems / unit types. E.g. French have Rafale fighter jets – can these really seamlessly integrate into squadrons flying Eurofighters, controlled by an AWACS flight from Spain and ground controllers from Italy?

Apr 27, 2010
9:32 pm
#99 Vusi :

This is article is insulting to China, it is prejudice and evil like. If it was not for China you pink “white” oppressors would never have known guns, you would never have known money, clothing, compass, books and many other invention the Chinese brought, your tradition is just oppression and evil. China tank is a world class tank able to defend China; your comments are just pure evil and hatred for being backward and insane in your nature.

May 1, 2010
9:19 am
#100 Sigh! :

Ok people….just to be clear……we should be proud of our country! Not too proud though.
We all did our part…there is no argument about who helped who.

the allies did their part to stop fascism. We stopped the german war machines and the empire of the rising sun!!! But i wonder. if Japan didnt attack the US, We could have lost.
It was the US that granted us Victory. But it was also the roles of other nation like, the glorious British empire who never gave up even though they were the only fighting country after france surrendered. The Australians and the new Zealands that fought the afrika corps and held back the germans from advancing to Russia. The incredible Russians that weakened Germany by destroying hitler’s 6th army and destroying the many tanks at the battle of kursk. And the other countries that took part.

SO you see, it was all of us that make up today. Even though, US came in late, but we thank you for that. But overall, I would like you to stop criticizing others because if it isn’t for all of us….WE WOULDN’T BE SO FREE like DEMOCRATIC!!!

May 6, 2010
11:39 pm
#101 Michael Chao :

The mantle has a triangular add on which is to defeat heat rounds only. An armour piercing round will go right through it without a change in trajectory to hit the main armour which is vertical. No trapped shot. Look at the leopard 3’s.
Go china

May 9, 2010
11:10 pm
#102 sabastian wagner :

ok you european bastards are pissen me off if just took a second to look up the facts on ied deaths u would no it was other vehicals like the hummer that were being destroyed american tanks have had a solid recored of taking hits at point blank range and still moving on and want to here another fun fact we all using the same armor type so get over your selfs ower tanks a relitivly equal so just shut up.

May 12, 2010
3:29 am
#103 Chill :

Guy’s…chill. They’re only tanks…

May 14, 2010
10:21 am
#104 kingofnoon :

China has a very impressive army with 6 million soldiers, very well equipped and well trained. if the US and China were to fight I’m not too sure the US would win. Given the fact that China doesn’t borrow a shit load of money and never giving it back.

May 18, 2010
11:40 am
#105 jack :

Wow this has got to be the LEAST biased article I’ve read, ever. Being sarcastic if you didn’t get it.

The Chinese ripping off Western technology? Yeah and the US wouldn’t have gotten to the moon at all had it not ripped off the rocket designs of a German scientist known as Werner von Braun. Well, of course you’re all White-Caucausian Westerners there and don’t need to make a distinction between Germans and Americans. All in the same family eh?

But when the Chinese rips off “Western” technology, all hell breaks loose. And by the way, this tradition is very recent, not ancient. The ancient tradition was Westerners ripping off Chinese technology – you got it the wrong way round.

And also, for you older guys here (30+), China’s design you might not have grown up noticing that their R&D and manufacturing is getting better and will definitely rival the “Western” technology soon.

And I’m not even Chinese!

May 28, 2010
11:45 pm
#106 A :

Well I know this, what each and every Country is willing to share to the public about their military equipment is most likely just for shows, when the real deal comes down, we’ll all see an array for weapons you’ll never dreamt of or think its possible, and at which time we’ll all have to stick our heads between our legs and kiss our ass goodbye.. These current weapons on display are just for child’s play on a playground, when the big boys come out, we won’t be sitting around talking….

Jun 12, 2010
2:14 am
#107 Caster :

Neat, but the crew would probably get sick from the led paint.

Jun 22, 2010
3:18 am
#108 wowie :

Can’t comment much… haven’t seen them in action. They look pretty good though…! What I hear is that in their system, there is corruption and that can cause some flaws in the manufacturing of the tank. It may not be as good as what they proclaimed.

Jul 16, 2010
2:56 pm
#109 Richard Seeto (Australia) :

Again I would reply in kind to these socalled Western experts on Chinese arms and armaments. First of all regarding Andrew’s article about China’s ripping off Western engineering and technology.

Since when is technological and engineering advances unique and belong to any one particular nation or race of people? How come Andrew has not mentioned the so many inventions, techniques and thinking as well as treasures that the West has taken, nay plundered with murder from the Chinese from centuries past?

So, in his and his like minded friends think that it is o.k. for the West to steal the Chinese’s things but when the boot is on the other foot, then the Chinese are ridiculed.

Hey, Andrew’s jealous streak is displayed for all to see. He thinks he can throw dirt on the Chinese but it is really flying back onto his face. If the Chinese tanks are so badly made, why does he bother? Surely, his Western powers will easily overcome these useless weapons of war, so why does he bother commenting? Or, is he really caring enough for China in order to point out the flaws so that they can be rectified in the next generation of the Chinese tanks?

Now for Australian’s contention that the US is Australia’s best friend. Think again. America did not fight the Coral Sea battle because it wanted to save Australia from the Japs. They have long studied the Chinese Classis, “Art of War” which state that it is better to fight a war in someone’s backyard than to do it in one’s own.

When the Australian government gave total command to General McArthur over the Australian forces, he never cared much if Australia was in danger of being invaded by the Japs; all he cared was for him to recover the Philippines as quickly as possible in order to save his face having been forced to evacuate and left his army to face the advancing Japs. (Check your history of the war in Papua New Guinea.)

We followed the Yanks into so many war adventures with no clear objectives other than the “Domino theory” which proved to be flawed ideas and what has Australia gained for its losses of the cream of its youth? Nothing. In return for our involvement in Korea, we get mass migration of Koreans; in the Vietnam War intervention, the country got united in the end anyway and we got another lot of mass migration this time of Vietnamese. We condemned Sadam Hussein for killing thousands of its citizens but we ended up killing more of them, scattered more of them and destroying their cities, habitats and infrastructure and when they come to our shores seeking asylum, we demonized them by calling them “Queue Jumpers” and “Boat People” treating them inhumanely worse than the local dogs by incarcerating them in razor wired compounds for a “crime” no worse than just wanting to save their own lives. We went into Iraq on the pretence of giving them freedom and democracy but when come by their own volition to taste a bit of that freedom that we are so willing to sacrifice our young for on their behalf, you’ll think we would welcome them with open arms , wouldn’t we?

After spending the billions of dollars on this wasteful and gain less adventure, what have we to show for the expense? Does Australia attain a higher esteem in the Moslem world? What material benefits did Australians get for their sacrifice?

Trouble with a lot of Australians, they think that by siding with the Americans on their war adventures, the Yanks will come to our aid when we are in need of them to come to defend us. No, America will do what is in their own national interest and that is the way it should be for all nations. The famed ANZUS treaty stated that the three nations of Australia, New Zealand and United States will “consult” each other in the event one of them is attacked by an enemy. No where would you find any terms which state that any country will come to anyone’s aid in the event of an attack.

It is only wishful thinking on the part of those Australians who think that by following blindly any war adventure that America chooses to prosecute that America will repay the favour when Australia is in turn in need of help.

History has given ample evidence that the best form of defence is self help and self defence. Relying on a big brother is best patchy and at worse, non existent.

Jul 17, 2010
3:33 am
#110 houston0213 :

Whoa, what up with the US hate? What we do to you besides save you euro’s time and time again? And the hate on capitalism? Individuality to be able to be anyone you want to in life is what makes capitalism and the US great! Go live in china for a year and come back and tell ne you’d prefer socialism over capitalism. If yhey haven’t already censored this website from China. The world should be brothers in arms. But trust me, I don’t regret any decision of war the US has made. The world should respect and fear the US. Why don’t you think no Mid-Easterner’s are on here? I’m sure they were talkin just as much trash as you euro’s are. Then the Iraqi liberation started, and they shut their sorry mouths! Think before you speak. That’s all I ask.

Jul 28, 2010
4:34 am
#111 Richard Seeto :

Why do some Americans like houston0213 think that America is infallible? Who said anything like hating capitalism? Then again, what is wrong with communism and/or socialism? I say there is everything wrong with any “ism” when it is not practised the way it should be and corruption is in all systems is why they screw up.

Individuality is not the sole property of the U.S. and isn’t it a shame that anything that has value is automatically claimed by the Americans as their sole property and monopoly?

I have lived in China for 6 months twice and sure there is censorship of certain politically unpalatable subjects to the government but everything else is open slather even the much loved western vice of portnoy pursuits. Tell you what, despite all the criticisms of the west and that’s because these critics are either jealous or think that China is their fairy godmother when she does not do their bidding, it is a damn good place to live in. These are some of the things which I liked about living there and not quite a few westerners and too many Americans as well do the same are:-

1. The streets are safe. Lone women who work at night can walk home in the wee hours of the morning without fear of rape, assault or murder. Try this in any big western cities you care to name including the big Apple.
2. Living is dirt cheap when we use our money there. Hear how westerners are groaning under the heavy imposts of increasing government and city hall charges in their own countries.
3. People are friendly and welcoming. Check out the crowd in your own city sometimes and have a good look at their faces.
4. Transport is dirt cheap. For the equivalent of US0.12, one can travel from one end of the city to the next in modern, safe, air-conditioned buses. Next time you hop onto a train or bus in your city check how much you are paying if it hasn’t increased again.
5. Food is cheap and fresh and mostly organically grown and sold by the producers themselves and produced without poisonous sprays. Look into the way your food is produced, prepared and marketed.
6. There is no gigantic prison system here to hold people who break the US invented “Three strike, you’re Out” rule. In the US, the prison is the growth industry.
7. There is no racial discrimination. I have seen many black people from Africa and all over the world who walks the streets of large cities like Guangzhou and bargain like the best of Chinese and no-one ever say look and say “those black bastards.” Can you say the same for your blacks back home?
8. TCM Traditional Chinese Medicine is without peer, cheap and effective. Before going to China, I suffered pain in my right shoulder which become very painful when moved and my western trained doctor told me that I must put up with it as there is no cure as it is an old age disease. Well, through acupuncture, injections and radical manipulation, my shoulder is now as good as new and what’s more, I can even practise martial arts with it. Try that with your scientific medical care.

I can go on and on, my friend but that is not to say that China do not have faults. Name me any other country with less faults and I can enumerate China’s virtues.

BTW, on one of the other posts, one yank said that if the Americans did not come to the aid of China in WW2, China would not make it. Wrong! On the other hand, if China did not resist and fight the Japs, they would have taken America long before that day of Infamy as the Yanks call it.

Yes, America did give much material aid to the Chinese but all of it went to Chiang Kai Shek who used all of it to fight the communists instead of the Japanese invaders. The Americans knew this and have their eyes wide open but did nothing because their fear and loathing of the Reds exceeded those of the Japs.

When I was young, I thought the much publicized, “FlyingTigers” were a great airforce but as history recorded it, it was just a flying mouse organisation with the Jap Zeros besting them 20 to 1.

No, the world should not be brother in arms. There are no enemies except those the Americans have killed and alienated and whose countries they have destroyed. Consider this, the Americans, those who are war-mongers, that is, for not all Americans should be tarred with the same brush, think they have a God given right to go an invade, pillage, kill and destroy any country on earth but when some one wreak vengeance back on them in no matter how small a way, they are “terrorists”. Americans are very adept at name calling and condoning its own war criminal activities.
Yes, the world should be all brothers and sisters in peace!

The world should not have to fear the US. The world should not have to fear anybody. We should all be able to walk the earth without having to look over our shoulders or up at the sky wondering when a US made missile is about to snuff out our lives. No-one has the right to take other’s lives.

Respect, my friend is something which must be earned. It cannot be imposed. When America deserve respect, I can guarantee it will come to her.

If you think that Mid-Easterners are afraid of you; you must be living under a rock. If anything the Americans are dead scared of the Mid-Easteners because they are braver than you think and smart.

Are you proud of your invasion of proud and independent Iraq? Your country went in with overwhelming modern and deadly weapons to kill, pillage, rape and destroy her on a lie and you are proud of that? What kind of mindset do you have? And you call yourself Christian? Of course, I forgot that your President Bush claimed that he has a mandate from God to go and invade Iraq. You have destroyed and devastated that country and killed more people than Saddam Hussein and you are damn proud of that?

Look what you have done to the world. You have increased climate pollution and caused a flood of Iraqi refugees which the whole world is now saddled with and your country deny responsibility. Great work, my friend but don’t cry when some Iraqi do some harm to your country in future years. Only tragedy is, some other innocent Americans may suffer. Your own words have condemned you.

If I were you, houston0213, my friend, I would indeed shut up. Because everything you put up is so easily shot down and the less you say, the less mistakes you make.

Jul 28, 2010
10:54 pm
#112 Douglas :

This Tank seems to be a collage of both the Soviet T-72 and of Western squared off turret designs. While it is definitaly a step up from previous Chinese designs (or copies of Soviet Tanks) I see nothing offered in performance to suggest parity with the M1 Abrams, the French Leclerc or German Leopard. It does not even compare with the Russian T-90. But… with enough of them, they can do some damage. In 1970, this would be a world beater… in 2010, “…not so much.”

Jul 28, 2010
10:57 pm
#113 Douglas :

Hey Seeto,

What’s it like to be so stupid…? does it hurt?

Jul 29, 2010
10:02 am
#114 Richard Seeto :

Hey, Douglas. You are not only hurting but smarting badly; otherwise you would not write such stupid tripe.

Jul 29, 2010
10:05 am
#115 Richard Seeto :

Douglas, it is easy to write nothing with an empty head but just calling names. For a real debate or discussion, try to refute or enlarge some of the points I made. Touche!

Aug 6, 2010
2:49 am
#116 M-E :

god damn guys, this is about a tank, i dont like all these racist ppl on here, everyones equal no matter race, nationality etc… abd ww2 wasnt won by america or russia or britian it was all 3 combined that saved the day not to mention all the smaller countries that played a part in victory against nazis, japanese, and italians… i have a feeling if any of the three countries listed above were taken outta the ww2 equation the axis would of won… and america has helped many countries and has recieved help from many countries… as of this time/era America has the best military in the world but that could always change and probably will eventualy…and never downgrade an army cuz u dont like them they r all men fighting for there country and dieing for the freedom of there ppl thats no small thing and never underestimate an enemy. now all you dumbass racists and nationalists keep your biast messages to yourself

Aug 9, 2010
11:49 pm
#117 bob :

USA did not alter the outcome of ww2 with a fight. thay did speed it up. russia had them beat but it did take some time and would have been longer if we did not fight. that said britten and russia would not have won without the USA. britten would not have won the battle of britten without gas, food, and all the war goods thay could use. and thay got that from USA. russia did not stop germany until thay got p 39. gm trucks and the like food .and just evry thing thay could get. and then only when thay could leave there eastern border almost undefended after USA got pulled into a fight. do i think the USA better than evryone anywhere ….YES im an american. does that make it so … no. but rhe americans didnt give a rats ash who ran eu. one pedifile or the other what diff. does it make….. oh sorry off on a diff road.

the tank is like all other tanks now and ww2 like someone said to many p 47 .a 10.f 18s and Nanchang Q-5/A-5 FANTAN,XIAN FH-7 – SUPERSONIC NUCLEAR STRIKE BOMBER

Aug 26, 2010
11:51 pm
#118 ExRedux :

Who needs numbers when you could dish out air superiority?

Sep 22, 2010
2:42 pm
#119 Heil to China :

Lmao Tyler you really believe that the U.S has the best stuff? That’s a laugh!

Deutschland far out classes anything the U.S has to offer in almost every feild of war you may only be able to beat us in the air but even there you’d have a problem.

Even our old Leo 2 can stand up to your M1A2 Abrams. Although Britain Challenger 2 beats the M1A2 Abrams.

The m16 is far from the best gun, I mean really look at HK weapons.

Not to be mean but I find it funny how every Yankie think the U.S is the best country in the world with the best military.

Oct 14, 2010
3:59 pm
#120 fbloo :

bloo, go fcuk your mom’s ass

Oct 14, 2010
4:01 pm
#121 fbloo :

british? faded glory!

Jan 20, 2011
4:00 pm
#122 Chris :

Everyone seems to be focused on the EU and United States here. First of all, EU wants their militaries to be linked, they are not. Second of all, they are trying to make their Union politically intact. Third of all, their militaries are not linked, and Fourth of all, they are economically linked. There is no way America can fight the EU if the EU does not have a military to defend itself. Either its America vs Germany, or America vs France. The two leading countries of the EU.

America didn’t win World War 2. America only took out the left over of the German forces after the Soviet and others took the real damage.

No political view is wrong, the country may view it good when the citizens view it wrong. But who has the power? The country (government) of course.

@Michael, the Europeans do not have limited capabilities, it was actually the Europeans taking geographical damage. Never have they had limited capabilities, that was only Germany and Japan.

@Conner, have you thought of the reason? Or is your mind so small you can’t think as far as we can? Look, Americans love the Chinese language and Chinese Culture, wouldn’t that be te same for the Chinese loving the American language and Culture? Seriously, maybe some of the Chinese people were born in America and raised around Americans catching on to the language.

Are you trying to dictate America or something? Im pretty sure Americans are not the only ones with problems in your view. In American view, Chinese have problems and in the Chinese view Americans have problem. You take racism to a whole new level.

Feb 10, 2011
6:12 am
#123 Donalov :

I highly agree with Richard, and i’m Canadian. And most of you filthy yanks need to learn how to spell.

Feb 14, 2011
3:05 am
#124 CanadaSucks :

@Donalov I’m American and I think you need to learn grammar you illiterate idiot.

Mar 2, 2011
5:25 am
#125 Tom Clement :

RE this comment.@Donalov I’m American and I think you need to learn grammar you illiterate idiot.

Oh an American… you mean an ignorant hot dog eating mental peasant…

Mar 2, 2011
5:28 am
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Mar 19, 2011
8:09 am
#127 thethinkingman224 :

im from china but if you find my comments offending dont take it as the wrong way. i think usa is the most powerful country in world but i dont it will last for long i think china will be the powerful one in the next 30 to 50 years. i think what happened in the sino war was that the russians was helping the chinese while taiwan was being helped by the americans. but after defeating the japs taiwan had a war with china. the war was just all about democracy against communist party as so america was helping taiwan because them both are democracy and its the same reason with the vietnam war and korean war. and so china won thats why china is now communist.

Mar 19, 2011
11:10 am
#128 sasidhar :

china is having one of the worst tanks . it should modernise it.

Mar 19, 2011
11:30 pm
#129 Tom :

I hate to say it but it’s only a matter of time before China passes the United States military. They steal all our technology and treat their people like slave laborers. Just think the direction the world will be headed in when the Godless human right violating Chinese run the world. Their will be Cambodia’s and Pol Pots everywhere backed by Communist military might and their lack of moral standing and human rights. God have mercy!

Mar 19, 2011
11:46 pm
#130 Tom :

If China could they’d retake Taiwan. The fact that they haven’t while we have Americas weakest president ever in office right now shows where they stand. We would annihilate them and they no that. That’s why they will continue to grow their economy and military until one day their military will be able to at least stand up to us. If Obama gets another 4 years it could be sooner then everyone thinks. Obama will do his best to fulfill his fathers dreams and make the US irrelevant on the world stage. God have mercy!

Mar 21, 2011
2:57 am
#131 Tom :

But we still have a military budget 6 or 7 times that of China. Hopefully that’s enough to keep us safe for the forseeable future. With them stealing and reverse engineering everything they steal they could probably catch us for 30 or 40 cents on the dollar but not 15 to 20 cents on the dollar or roughly 15 to 17% of the US military budget. We have twice the military budget of the 27 country’s in the EU combined. It’ll take more then Obama’s 4 years to destroy the masterpiece that the US military has created. Chinas all about mass producing junk. They do it in everything so I have to assume they think they can mass produce equipment and fill them with the billions of people they have rather then build the best in the interest of life. When you don’t believe in a higher power you have different priorities. They just can’t understand the value of quality people. Their all seen as disposable. This is really a weakness, not a strength. Quality soldiers are priceless. Experience can’t be learned but one way. That’s why we are and will be the one dominant military power in the world for at least the next decade or two.

Apr 26, 2011
10:27 am
#132 True to be truth :

Pure insulting, tarnishing remarks to China. I am not surprise one day the American will get broke soon until China don’t even have to lose a life to defeat this notorious country. Chinese did not defile, humiliate these so-called democratic country (US), but they keep discredit China weaponry. Apparently, The US so-called advanced technology are not high-tech as they were proud of. Couldn’t you guys differentiate the so-called advances technology only can bully the much much more weaker countries, such as Iraq, and Afghanistan. Even the US claimed the victory but, their people and their soldiers didn’t realise or notice their victory were belongs to the coalition forces. Not just to the American. Ironic isn’t it? Now the American accusing China weapons are trash. They should learn what is a real war looks like. Indeed, bull-shitting is a gambit, but when facing a real war is another matter.

May 1, 2011
11:51 am
#133 xiaolong :

Interesting. It’s a beautiful tank, that’s for sure. I don’t think on par with the American Abrams, German Leopard, or Russian T-90, but it’s still a nice tank.

Jun 7, 2011
9:29 am
#134 Yoyo :

In war of words is irrational. Who knows? Is Abraham M1A1 that good as said? In real war, M1A1 only blew some obsolete scraps in charred carcasses during Afghanistan and Iraq war. Those were totally out-dated wrecks. Nobody could assure or proof that M1A1 is believed to have being over-rated. Similarly to the latest announces of M1A2. In fact, any weapons or technology has to be get updated or enhance when it reaches it limits of life or time.

Jun 7, 2011
9:42 am
#135 Yoyo :

The Americans can considered themselves lucky because those toasted tanks were out-dated together with their motley crew (not well–trained). So I think it is meaningless to boast off how strong the American tank is. No point!

Jun 24, 2011
9:44 pm
#136 Philonetic :

After Russia helped Germany take over Europe and Germany turned on them, who was there to pull them out of the fire?

Japan was killing nearly 30 million Chinese and other Asian ethnic groups, and you’re against the bombs use that ended that?


Jul 4, 2011
6:12 pm
#137 Josh :

I’m from England and I believe if china was to be our enemy and this type 99 tank was our enemy’s number 1 tank against us then I may be worried china has kept it’s military hardware very secret who knows what specifications this tank actually had I would not under estimate how it will be in battle until we have seen it in combat also I respect the American army they are great but I believe Europe and the us need each other when in battle as they each have there own qualities That compliment each others military skill

Aug 9, 2011
7:10 am
#138 required :

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7:15 am
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7:03 am
#140 Yoyo :

Don’t talk like the Americans were great or helpful. In fact, they are more evil than the Japanese. The Americans/Yanks also killed many innocent people included Japanese civilians, although many thought the Japanese deserved the consequences (“karma” they need to pay because they killed many innocent Chinese. Many innocent Japanese civilians lost their lives during WWII, after the Yanks dropped two Atom bomb in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Japan nearly lost the war against the Chinese during WWII. The Japanese began to retreat when the Communist Army fight fiercely to repel the Japanese. The Japanese troops were frightening when they heard Communist army marching on, unfortunately not the Kuomintang army (known as Taiwanese today). Kuomintang army fought terribly and were a bunch of coward. Look at the Nanjing incident (Nanjing Massacres), the Kuomintang has almost 2 millions soldiers, but easily surrender to the Japanese. Pathetic!

Apr 30, 2012
3:51 am
#141 Union :

How good of a tank could children build. Does it have a Walmart logo on it

Oct 25, 2012
9:58 pm
#142 TaNK LOVER :

type 99 excels every frigging tank you can show me even if its only paper but it doesn’t matter china isn’t an aggressive country to begin with. and m1a2 best tank? don’t make me laugh just because you idiots destroyed some EXPORTED/EXPORTED/SELF PRODUCED/T-72 doesnt mean your tank is good most of the t-72 didnt even work the only 2 tanks that can rival the type 99 is the leopard 2 a7 or merkava

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Dec 26, 2014
6:45 am
#166 james :

I’ve been an armor enthusiast for too long. My take.
The Chinese mbt is optimized for tank warfare. It can defeat an Abrams, or Leo2. All tanks are vulnerable in the engine compartment, and top-side attacks. Furthermore, some tanks do not have track-side armor.

Frontal assault. The Chinese turret armor is capable of protecting the crew…from any incoming direct fire towards the front.
Any exchange with a NATO tank whether that be a Leo2, or Abrams, gives no advantage to either.
NATO tanks place more emphasis on complete armor over the tracks, and armor against IED attacks. Other areas where NATO might have an advantage is tank repair logistics; NATO tanks have been fighting in wars so frequently, that their are designated repair hubs for those tanks. Spare parts are available.
Chinese tanks are built around testing an upgraded design, and then moving to a newer model – parts commonality will be problematic. However, the Chinese will field the most advanced tank they can develop. Thermal imaging, ERA, gyro-stabilized firing, etc.
Less manpower to operate with autoloader, and less fuel consumption are primary pluses. However, there is a tendency for central control; a weak point in communist military doctrine – unaware of the battlefield, the generals tend to be. Information awareness will be a key concept of future designs.

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