Western forces beware, the Chinese have fielded the most advanced tank yet! Well, only the most advanced in China that is. Following in the ancient Chinese tradition of quantity over quality and cheap products, the Chinese have developed their own 3rd generation battle tank that they believe is the answer to the Western nations’ superior tank designs. Likewise, they also used their other ancient tradition of ripping off western designs to compensate for their lack of engineering ability in the design of this tank. Yes, the Type 99 tank does possess many up-to-date gimmicks like a laser awareness system to locate the direction of shots fired at it (hmmm….) assuming they don’t destroy it first I guess, and it can also be used to scramble an enemy tank’s optics, I guess again under the assumption that the enemy tank’s optics weren’t used to target and then subsequently destroy it. Among other criticisms laid down by numerous armor enthusiasts, observe the area located directly under the turret, how the armor is concave rather than convex, this design renders this area a “shot trap”, which is a serious design blunder that increases vulnerability to frontal fire, the most common in a tank-on-tank battle. A shot could also jam the turret in this area even if it didn’t destroy the tank or kill it’s occupants. All in all, the Chinese have successfully developed a tank that rivals the western designs in speed, electronics, and almost there with the armor, but they still fall short in the overall design having not had any modern experience with tanks in battle.
Chinese Type 99 Tank - Newest Armor of China
On December - 13 - 2007
74 Responses
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Posted on December 13th, 2007 at 4:02 pm
nuke the gook
Posted on December 20th, 2007 at 8:19 pm
“Ripped off, Quantity not quality, lack of engineering skill etc., etc.”. Don’t knock a potential enemy’s weapons systems until you have an opportunity to test them in depth. To do so could be fatal. The item most responsible for American deaths in Afghanistan/Iraq are jury rigged IED’s probably built in someones goat stable.
Posted on January 4th, 2008 at 10:25 pm
the design may be rubbish but lets face facts, if we went to war, then it’s numbers. Just look what happened in WW2, the Germans had far better tanks than the allies, yet the allies mass produced the sherman, which lets face it was rubbish when compared to the Germans tanks, but because we had bigger numbers we won the day.
So in summary, yeah on a even playing field, this tank will get it’s arse kicked, but when you’re dealing with these kind of numbers, well, you better have some pretty damn amazing tanks that can take on those odds.
Posted on January 30th, 2008 at 12:37 pm
No wonder their equipment is getting better. They come here for school, work here in the defence industry send our secrets home. Who is stupid here? I don’t trust them. It’s just a matter of time.
Posted on February 12th, 2008 at 1:38 am
ah finally someone can stand up to the imperialist dogs. Too bad Iraq and Afghanistan didn’t have the same capabilities.
Posted on February 19th, 2008 at 7:14 am
Shermans were extremely reliable and extremely easy to maintain, unlike the nearly impossible to service and breakage prone German heavy field units. China cannot stand up to our military, nor could the entire world united at the present condition of global forces. Calling these tanks trash though is probably a mistake. The educational system in China far outpaces our own. Oh, Andy? The English were imperialist dogs. For better or worse, we are your masters.
Posted on March 28th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
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Posted on April 23rd, 2008 at 9:45 pm
“EU could kick american’s scrawny army in 1 day!
Americans are morons…. you use piece of crap guns… (m4’s and m16’s) and your soldiers aren’t real men. They are only high school graduates paying for college.”
You got us there, chief.
But, considering we’d be fighting in Europe as the EU cannot even bus a company of grunts to Oktoberfest for snitzels and Perrier without American transport, I still think America would come out on top.
Posted on April 23rd, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Guys… I understand what you’re trying to say, and I’m sure you’ve done extensive research on this, but the best tank in the world and being upgraded even now into a new model is the M1A2 Abram. Read up on it sometime: This thing took an explosive that had the force to FLIP IT, and rolled over and kept going. Seriously. It can survive multiple shots, 3-4 point blank range, the new model has a host of upgrades, including a turret controlled without exposure, as well as an open turret, uses EXTREMELY powerful rounds. Now! The valid opposition: IED’s. Well, those are difficult, aren’t they. They don’t tell you about how many times the Abrams have taken IED’s and continued on, right? Of course not. When they do penetrate, they’re absolutely pointblank through the treads. Who here as ever seen an Abram take an IED from the front? No? That’s because if they’re ever shown against IED’s, they’re always coming in through the treads.
Feel free to dispute me, I’m open to new ideas - these are merely my opinion.
Oh, and Brad - the EU is made up of 27 nations, dude. I think that’s a little lopsided. Not saying we would go down easily, no, you’re in for quite a suprise - we hold the most advanced technology in the world, well, again, in my opinion. Feel free to dispute.
By the way - the M16 is one of the best rifles in the world, and the M468 is only beaten by the AK in the ability to drag it’s sorry ass through mud and fire the weapon. Which is cool - always a nice design feature. And the army accepts yearly 10% of high school dropouts as part of it’s recruitment schedule, while the marines accept less than a percent. Don’t knock them - they’re out fighting and dying and damn it, they deserve your respect, you little crap.
Posted on May 7th, 2008 at 3:33 am
My bad - didn’t read the last part of your post - sorry I got a little heated there. I have the greatest of respect for the marines and the army, and I would hope that you understand their level of skill and ability.
Posted on May 7th, 2008 at 3:35 am
Sorry about the triple, but one last point of evidence - this is the m4 here… and the M468 is much, much better. Read up on it - it’s hilariously awesome.
http://www.futurefirepower.com/m4-m4a1-carbine-modern-weapons
Unless I’m wrong, this is QED, as the AK has power, which the m468 has, but no range, which the m468 has.
Posted on May 7th, 2008 at 3:38 am
“EU could kick american’s scrawny army in 1 day!
Americans are morons…. you use piece of crap guns… (m4’s and m16’s) and your soldiers aren’t real men. They are only high school graduates paying for college.”
2 things, m4 is a good rifle, pretty damn decent.
Another thing, yeah, the americans are paying for college, but they are real men, they died for eurotrash people like you during the cold war.
Enjoy your “army” eurotrash.
Posted on May 15th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
China doesn’t need this tank, simple cheap IED can kill all american tanks easily. That’s american quality for you. No wonder their cars are crappy too.
Posted on May 25th, 2008 at 11:15 am
Hey Brad. Show a little gratitude to the American military. Europe (and Japan, also) would be a very different place right now if it weren’t for us. The M-16 is a piece of crap? In the beginning, perhaps. But the current rendition is the western world standard of measure. Not as jam-proof as an AK, but better in almost every other respect. Remember, the Russians change calibers because of the M-16.
Posted on July 4th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Hey Banzai. If IEDs can kill American tanks, what do you think they will do to yours…or anyone else’s? And yes, we can make IEDs also if it comes to that. Hi tech IEDs. A contradiction of terms, perhaps, but improvisation can get hi tech like any else.
Posted on July 4th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
It’s funny. People all over the world down us Americans. Those same people call us first for help. They love our money, music, movies and marboros…but hate us. Go figure. We are not perfect, but no more imperfect than anyone else. We certainly do not have anymore dirt under our rug than you Europeans. We had to come over twice to save you from each other, and stayed 50 plus yrs to keep it from happening a 3rd time. You could have had the Russians instead of us. Remember that.
Posted on July 4th, 2008 at 3:42 pm
The US does have hi tech IEDs, I saw them on future weapons recently. I’ll write an article about them soon. They can see detect whether incoming tanks are friendlies or not, and shoots out a flying shape charge disc similar to the ones used in the sensor-fused weapon, which also has an article on this site.
Posted on July 6th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
Hey… Just putting some thoughts in … The M16/M4 series weapons aren’t as good as they should be… I personally would prefer a FNC or a Hk416. The AK seems to be more reliable… If not less accurate. The M16/M4 series win in accuracy and a better caliber with the AK but compared to the Sako/Valmet Ak rifles which are made in both 5.56mm and 7.62mm they still underperform. What the US needs to do with the M16/M4 rifles is to upgrade them to an HK416 level and add red dot rights to them. I love America, which is why I think we should improve our small arms.
Posted on July 10th, 2008 at 2:59 am
On what gibbs said, what you say is actually quite right… I came from Indonesia where everyone hated the US but loved US Dollars, Weapons, and Culture. Most of the world is that way except Europe at the current situation. Europe is at a state where they have their own culture, Their militaries are somewhat better equipped than the US and their euros are worth more. On the other hand, their culture seems to be people in skintight pants, Eurodance music, and IKEA. Their weapons also seem too expensive and aren’t too battle tested. And their Euro’s are too overvalued leading the Euro using nations to outsource to eastern Europe The US is still at the top in my opinion.
Posted on July 10th, 2008 at 3:14 am
i dont hate americans but i hate them hawkish republicans…
i have a lot of friend in the united states but about the usa’sarmy …i hate it too, i like more the rusia and german weaponry
Posted on July 19th, 2008 at 11:58 pm
What’s up with the people in here? After all the nationalistic rah-rah it seems that after years of nationhood people still don’t know how to treat each other human beings with basic decency.
Respect the soldiers, your beef is with the politicans.
Posted on July 24th, 2008 at 8:42 am
future firepower is full of propaganda bull-shit. this site, like hollywood movies, is a cooking pot of american political propaganda for psychological warfare. the idea is simple: try to make everyone believe you are better than what you really are. this is the first step in any aggressive move: the psychological advantage relative to the adversary through intense advertising. that’s why america has to add sugar to their words in front of the global media and to reinforce their own morale between americans. propaganda for outsiders and propaganda of consolidation for insiders. it extendes from the movies to the video games. noticeable american propaganda. here you fail if you try to make me believe whatever on ‘american hi-tech weaponry’. the only thing missing here is for someone to point out the trash that are american engineered products like windows vista. I don’t know how reliable are unclassified weapons information, but there are Vista things that I can see by myself.
Posted on July 31st, 2008 at 9:24 am
the americans went to the two world wars because they were scared to shit about the eventuality of an eurasian superstate. american politicians don’t really care about the wellbeing of people elsewhere. they don’t even do much about poverty in america, are you going to convince me that they care about freedom in other parts of the world?
also, american marines are not Men, they are mercenaries. they kill for the pay, and they would kill anyone no matter if they were saints or the devil. if a soldier doesn’t do so, they would be charged with mutiny and end up in a court martial. how do you distinguish a 5 year old kid from an enemy soldier when you fire artillery shells and cruise missile in the middle of Bagdad. these american marines are murderers under pay. what’s the difference between a street criminal and a soldier: that the soldier is sponsored by the state. but they are essentially killers under contract, not heroes. real Men stand on their own. they have honesty and integrity and are transparent because they have nothing to fear. with the enemies america has made, I think their marines have a lot to fear (call for air support!). and they definetely fear a shot in the head. they are not Men, they are a pack of soft and vulnerable kids.
Posted on July 31st, 2008 at 10:19 am
the english may be imperialists, but ?we?, whoever I am, we are more imperialists than anyone else on earth. and the interesting thing is, no english really knew!
Posted on July 31st, 2008 at 10:29 am
The author of this website should try to be a little more professional and write about weapons without all the racial slurs.
Posted on August 27th, 2008 at 11:09 pm
Where do you see any racial slurs? I would be happy to remove them if you could point them out.
Posted on August 28th, 2008 at 3:10 am
What is up with all this hating America crap? i happen to agree with europe’s own assessment that all of europe could not win a war against America, but lets not find out shall we? there are more important people to fight, like the terrorists. Okay?
Posted on October 17th, 2008 at 11:36 pm
A, i will kick your ass if you insult America again, America went to Europe twice to save your lousy asses, so watch it, we might do it again
Posted on October 18th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
Oh, and 1 more thing, the USMC is the best fighting unit on earth, why do you think the SAS asks for Marine help when things go bad
Posted on October 18th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
you are all retards the marines suck and are over rated, amercia is losing in there wars. Its the end of amercia, history always repeats its self the soviet union invade afganastan and there contry failed. this will happen to the usa, and plus quanty is better than quality remmber ww2 3 shermans to take down 1 tiger. but there were more shermans than tigers
Posted on November 20th, 2008 at 10:47 pm
America saved western europe in world war 2 who today has limited capabilities of exerting their force throughout the world if they can at all. but more seariously, china is slowly improving their armed forces even if they must learn from others.kindov sad how they developed the use of gunpowder with other revolutionary military technologies and yet they lag behindeven once was a naval superpower under a certain ming emporor until he passsed away and the ignorant conservative eunuchsscrapped their navy entirly and secularized their state. america wont stay on top foreveras all nations rise then fall. quantity has advantages and so do quality. but fools rely on sheer numbers. russia tried that in their pre world war 2 war with finland and the results were disasterous.
Posted on December 14th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
I am tired of ignora nt idiots badmouthing america and uplifting evil corrupted regimes. I hated america under bush and the republicans for their bullcrap yet i hear stupid shit from uneducated and unlearned idiots? damn read details on history and learn how our world is hell full of evil. it cant be blammed on america. Its just jealousy. china under communist leadership is a ruthless tyrant against any who try to stand up to it. So called islamic regimes murder and massacare more muslims than america ever did. europe stands idle while innocents sufffer. nobody knows of the horrendous genocides the japanese did in china in world war 2. nobody cares about shit, only as long as they wealthy. none cares about the racially encouraged murders rapes and genocides the arabs done in the sudan in darfur, none care bought the arab invasion of arabia when the arabs tried to eliminate the persian culture and erase their hitory, none care of the western nations primary responsibibnlity of how we all encouraged such hatred and extremismm by supporting corrupt governments and exploiting foreign lands to make profits at the natives expence. fuck you all, i hope this piece of shit corrupted world falls into chaos as all of you so damn ignorant. america is just as responsible as those overzealous religious fanatical idiotic religious retards who kill in allahs name. humanity cant care about suffering of others or the damage we do to our home world. americas not better than any nation and rest of world has no right demonizing us to cover up the evil and hipocracy of their own nations. being called murderers in iraq? I’d kill an entire city of civilians if it meant i could get back home alive. WHy should i die in a foreign land where we are hated by an entire population scheming for our deaths over a srtupid war a corrupt idiotic president representing his equally retarded country for electing him who hasnt learned of the republicans bullshit and buy into religious propaganda and cant make a stand when theirs misjustice. I had to rant and rave as i am seariously pissed at such ignorance.
Posted on December 15th, 2008 at 12:44 am
It is sad that this article ends up again with China-bashing, US-bashing and so on.
Why can some people not read an article as it is?
You start dissing a product because of a country’s origin you even don’t know well?
I feel pity for them who have been totally brainwashed by the propaganda of their own nation.
I guess you guys must have a hardlife and too much time off to spread prejudices and hatred sentiments.
Are you different to any propaganda speakers like Goebbels or the preachers of the islamic extremists?
Posted on January 25th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
i think most esterners are just too arrogant, ignorrant or blind to recognize/admit that others can catch up. Remember about the times when westerners were looking down at Japanese electronics and cars.
Posted on February 12th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
yes i agree on the tanks and numbers but you can’t honestly think that everyone is stupid i mean yes they might think something like that might happen and plan to counter it with something different . i have just recently learned of new age machine gun weaponry called metal storm and the fact it can destroy alot of stuff very easily and with little trouble seeing that it can fire about 16,000 bullet in a second and alot of big gernads in large amounts it could be easily used for multiple uses from air defense to ground and even sea defense for destroying cruise missles and torpedos and even mines . it can even take a whole barrage of tanks with no trouble. so i say the us it still in the lead whatever they may get or trade or create ina notehr country there will be something better coming out over here and something that can deal with it if need in some crazy future.
Posted on March 16th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
us still went to the moon first and no can ever change it so were always gona be technologically superior and don’t ever forget it .
Posted on March 16th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Metal Storm is an Australian invention!
Posted on March 20th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
well, the people say qauntity over quality is what will win, well the us has both, the u.s. has 10,000 abrams tanks… that is quantity, also the abrams is the world best tank and is battle proven,
Posted on April 10th, 2009 at 8:32 am
Tanks are nothing more than crowd control now, advanced missile systems have rendered the tank nearly obsolete in conventional modern warfare. With f-22 and f-35 fighters being produced now, any military that relies on tanks is very vulnerable.
Posted on April 14th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
The key to technology and military is simply economy.
The U.S. are strong because of their superior economy.
We’ll see how long that will last with China dominating the world’s manufacture and soon, technology (ripped off from the west or not that does not matter).
Posted on April 28th, 2009 at 5:16 am
Makka it was only developed and tested in Aus m8, it’s a usa corporate invention, so is TROPHY.
Posted on April 30th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Sorry for my earlier comment, was bit annoyed. Refering to the main article, this new tank built by china is an improvement over their prior designs but still no mach for westen tanks. Well, if its electonics and engineering are good with a strong enough cannon, it might be good enough for its intended uses
Posted on May 2nd, 2009 at 8:37 pm
What is wrong with Europe. Im talking to all of you who said the marine corp sucks. With out our marine corp and d-day yall would be miserable rats living under a nazis regime. How about a little thanks. And again dont down a soldier if your not one yourself. Also Im sorry if I sound like a Europe basher I just cant stand all of this US hate stuff its not like we are evil or anything. China may be the next super power but the american spirit will always be a super power.
GBA
Posted on May 8th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Everything take time to evolve… most of the modern warfare will be conducted within cities rather than open battlefields… China is not USA’s main threat… also the Type 99 is only fielded in limited numbers, the Type 96G is the most common MBT in China, with upgraded armour and electronics it is just as effective as the M1A1……. the DU armour is something China would like to replicate, but there is not enough DU from nuclear energy plant to serve such purposes.
Without an effective air defense, tanks are sitting ducks for helicopter gunship, a hellfire equivalent tandem HEAT missile will make any modern armour useless. Also did anyone notice that US is moving away from building heavier and heavier MBT tanks, but they are concentrating their efforts on mobile fighting vehicles with large caliber guns…… MBT in afghanistan is useless, in desert it is useless, in a muddy area it is useless…. because it is immobilised by its own weight…..
Abram tanks is boggled down by its turbine engine, which guzzles fuel at an amazing rate, if it can’t refuelled then it is useless…… also it needs a Boeing Globemaster III to move it…
People all boast about the killing power of various tanks, maybe they should boast about the government support for student scholarship whom wants to further educate themselves….
i mean instead of spending endless amount of money fighting wars, wouldn’t it be better to give better education and health care to your citizens…. just a thought ppl.
Posted on June 16th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Regaurding this interesting article: I like how your view of another countries tradtions, it gave this article a bit more flavour, although invoking many negative responses. This new tank could be a threat if they rely on that old ww2 tactic all of us war enthusiasts know with the shermans and tigers. If you think about it, optical jamming and shot sensing capabilities seem rather fit for a tank that takes the field with numbers, They would be able to effectively control the battlefield with this tactic, the only thing they may not have that many overlook is accuracy range, firepower and reload time that one tank already has. Unfortunately for this global announcement of chinese military capability( * thats just about all this time period is, is an arms race and display of who “thinks” they are greater *) there exists american made tank predators other then the Abrams. Consider the A-10 thunderbolt, or the AH-64 apache longbow. These crafts were created in the sole purpose of defeating an invasion of tanks. If you didnt already know, the AH-64 was developed in response to the russian “t” series tanks that may have ran over most of Europe. With this developement of a new cheap mas made chinese tank, you could predict the future intentions of China. It is a great addition to their best ground military force due to numbers along with weapons and armour that get the job done, i do not think anyone other then russia would have even a chance of matching America’s air supieriority.
to all foreign haters of America that posted nothing related to this article.
You are inexperianced in war and would have the decency and honor to regaurd the “enemy” as a formidable opponent. As many others said we saved your ass from others, although it was only a secondary objective, first being establishing control. I could only guess that your hatred for this prosperous land comes from jealousy. Yes you can call us stupid, like our president, i would have to agree that a good number of us are in fact gorged on the safety are carelessness inside the country. But do you honestly think america became what it is now from our general public? You see above all other countries, the U.S. loves war, they have to make excuses to be in war. Becaus of that reason alone we will be dominant in military. You arrogant fools lecture us about being driven by media and politics and the ironic thing is you fail to see yourself doing the same. Not even the public know of advanced tech kept underwraps that were started back in the 90’s. Hell, the F-22 project began in the 80’s. this in only the tip of the iceburg america represents. When you think you can say who will die, consider all of the facts.
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Posted on July 13th, 2009 at 8:02 am
Regaurding this interesting article: I like how your view of another countries tradtions, it gave this article a bit more flavour, although invoking many negative responses. This new tank could be a threat if they rely on that old ww2 tactic all of us war enthusiasts know with the shermans and tigers. If you think about it, optical jamming and shot sensing capabilities seem rather fit for a tank that takes the field with numbers, They would be able to effectively control the battlefield with this tactic, the only thing they may not have that many overlook is accuracy range, firepower and reload time that one tank already has. Unfortunately for this global announcement of chinese military capability( * thats just about all this time period is, is an arms race and display of who “thinks” they are greater *) there exists american made tank predators other then the Abrams. Consider the A-10 thunderbolt, or the AH-64 apache longbow. These crafts were created in the sole purpose of defeating an invasion of tanks. If you didnt already know, the AH-64 was developed in response to the russian “t” series tanks that may have ran over most of Europe. With this developement of a new cheap mas made chinese tank, you could predict the future intentions of China. It is a great addition to their best ground military force due to numbers along with weapons and armour that get the job done, i do not think anyone other then russia would have even a chance of matching America’s air supieriority.
to all foreign haters of America that posted nothing related to this article.
You are inexperianced in war and wouldnt have the decency and honor to regaurd the “enemy” as a formidable opponent. As many others said we saved your ass from others, although it was only a secondary objective, first being establishing control. I could only guess that your hatred for this prosperous land comes from jealousy. Yes you can call us stupid, like our president, i would have to agree that a good number of us are in fact gorged on the safety are carelessness inside the country. But do you honestly think america became what it is now from our general public? You see above all other countries, the U.S. loves war, they have to make excuses to be in war. Becaus of that reason alone we will be dominant in military. You arrogant fools lecture us about being driven by media and politics and the ironic thing is you fail to see yourself doing the same. Not even the public know of advanced tech kept underwraps that were started back in the 90’s. Hell, the F-22 project began in the 80’s. this is only the tip of the iceburg america represents. When you think you can say who will die, consider all of the facts.
Currently my favorite site for military information and reading.
Posted on July 13th, 2009 at 8:41 am
Steelghost50:Of course people would hate america/ american. why? 1. american fags basicly limited the development in europe/asia/middle east. 2. ripping other country off by selling stock, then bankrupe. 3. without reasoning attack a random country.
Iraq war: ur dipshit Presdents little bush believe iraq have nuclear weapon (what a joke) when the soldiers landed on iraq, they discovered iraq is a poor cheepy country, people were dying on hunger, mlltary only have the technonlogy of during cold war. so why the heck did america keep stapping on those poor iraq people? “Oil” thats why. iraq <— this country contain world’s 1/3 of oil production. if america took control of the country, oil business would basicly control americans. if countries other then america wanted to import oil from iraq, they would pay way more than before the war was started. and f22 is rubbish, which was defeated by a boeing EA-18 growler. also report said because f22 fly an hour could cost 30hours of ground maintince are (40million bucks-older modle f15 only cost 1/6 of f22’s price), the production of f22 would stop at 186. so why should we work with bunch redneck coward americans? huh? the countries who allied with america should stop the relationships, because when u help them**a**** u get nothing but the price of paying ur dead soldiers
Posted on July 19th, 2009 at 5:04 am
Hmm! lets get a few things straight about the USA (i’m no US hater just a historian) First world War: USA enters and send 100’s 0f 1000 of men to fight in Europe requiring the Allies to supply them with guns tanks ammo even uniforms (recognise the “Tommy hats they wore?) the US actually created a crisis by draining equipment from veteran Allied Formations. WW2 USA refuses to aid Britain as she battles alone against the Fascist enemy (actually trading wih Germany and supplying steel for her Battleships and Tanks). At the time the Facists were very popular in the US and most people had an anti British setment. Congress actually fought JFK’s attempts to sell arms (at a profit) to britain at the same time they were selling war materials to the Nazis. USA actually only declares war on Germany AFTER Hitler declares war on America and starts sinking US ships ( Britain by now has fought off invasion and is activly assisting Russia against Hitler). As far as quality verses quantity today the facts are rather situational: if you have vast #’s of troops (China) and a culture that find massive lose of life acceptable if victory is possible , if you have a lower grade facilities for maintenance and battle repairs and a need for fast production and replacement the T99 is for you, the M1 is not. If you have high grade facilities for repair and maintenance a huge well stuffed wallet and a well established military industrial complex capable of supporting the best and most expensive technology available, you might want the M1. Just have a huge and expensive logistic tail in your Army to service them and MASSIVE reserves of fuel to keep them fed. Ohh! yeah fight close to home cause their a bitch to move.
Posted on July 23rd, 2009 at 11:08 am
Sorry just a little add on: The excellent armour fielded by the M1, Merkava, Le Clerc, and Lepoard 2 was originally created in Great Britain at the Royal Ordinance labs in the town of Chobham, hence the name “Chobham Armour” Being excellent allies the Brits offered the ivention to Nato members. Each now has its own special “flavour” The USA as a matter of course refused to divulge its “Recipe” to the Brits even though they inventd it. Without the new armour each of these tanks would have vastly reduced defensive capacities. The m1 would be a heavy fuel slugging tinder box, albiet with all the fancy bells and whistles.
Posted on July 23rd, 2009 at 11:25 am
Can I just say a chinese, modern day tank.
Posted on July 31st, 2009 at 10:00 pm
Is what this freaking thing is about.
Posted on July 31st, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Just wait till the Chinese develop their own impenetrable armour plating or god forbid steal one from its western rivals and then all it needs are a suitably sturdy chassis and a really big gun turrent/barrel (they could just buy an old Russian battleship …if they still have those around … and just rip one of the turrets from it mounting and fit if onto the tank chassis) and you will have big problem on your hands.
For i think if a tank that can take hit after hit it will only be a matter of time before the other opposing tank is blown wide apart.
Posted on August 8th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Why spend millions (possibly billions) on a tank, when a 10 US dollar IED could put the awesomely powerful United States of America into an economical downfall and send them and their allies fleeing from Iraq? The point is: develop evermore powerful and inexpensive ways to counter the threat that american tanks poses, not go into an arms race with them because nobody in the world could beat the americans in an head on arms race, the soviets made an honest effort but failed in the end.
Posted on August 11th, 2009 at 2:55 am
很好！
Posted on August 16th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
Someone need to be reminded that once upon a time “made in Japan” was considered cheap and crap. (And so was “Made in US” before that.) Personally, I find your arrogance and the insulting of our ancient tradition offensive but one cannot expect reasonable things from morons.
Perhaps China’s technology is not as advanced but then again China started on a much lower footing. I am, however, confident that this is only the beginning of a great modernisation that will see the end of U.S supremacy in 30-40 years. I’ve got a good chance of seeing this happen. And if the data regarding your obesity rate and health care access is true, then, I’m afraid you will not. Just as well.
Posted on September 12th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
If you want to know more about china ,may be you shoud go here! Here, everyday every thing change.
Posted on September 14th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
War is not an answer to problems that face humans around the world. Our interest in weapons that other countries develope is becuase we fear that we will one day be occupied by another nation’s laws and yet we all fear our own governments. America has been a major influence in policies throughout the world and most countriess recent it. Its one of the reasons we must show millitary dominance. It is up to our leaders to engage in developing good relationships throughout the world and to encourage its citizens to do the same. My concern is that one day the US will collapse because of the corruption in Washinton and also the corruption in other countries. Who cares about a tank when we have Nukes. Remember this world is just a botton away from total destruction.
Posted on September 20th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
The Chinese drove the UN and US all the way from the Yalu river to South Korea with simple infantry men. guess what they’re gonna do to you with modern weapons AND chinese infantry men?
You got it, kiss your asses goodbye!
Posted on September 29th, 2009 at 6:36 am
Btw, notice that “Made in Japan” used to mean crap in the 1960s, and we all know where that ended up. China, unlike the US, has the money to quickly create superior weaponry and equipment. They are the manufacturing center of the world, just like the USA was in the beginning of the 20th century.
Never bet against them commies, they haven’t lost a single war since the founding of the state in 1949.
Posted on September 29th, 2009 at 6:39 am
How to Stop Iran Acquiring Nuclear Weapons
© 2009 By Bohdan O. Szuprowicz
The only way is to denuclearize the world. There are no other alternatives despite wishful illusions of some diplomats and politicians. Just look at the map.
Iran is surrounded by nuclear weapon-wielding states and powers. Across the northern horizon, Russia and Kazakhstan had nuclear-weapons for decades throughout the Cold War. There is talk about loose warheads and materials from those areas on the black markets of the world. United States controls Afghanistan in the East and Iraq in the West. This implies nuclear weapons whenever a need arises. U.S. aircraft carriers and submarines armed with nuclear weapons cruise the Persian Gulf to the South and have done so for years.
Pakistan, India, and China, all nuclear powers, loom farther to the East. Syria has known nuclear ambitions and North Korea contacts just to the West of Iraq. Israel, with a nuclear strike force is poised to take out Iran’s nuclear facilities with deep bunker penetration weapons. U.S. Navy, off Lebanon and bases in Turkey, are just minutes of missile flight time away.
You can’t really blame Iranian leadership for feeling somewhat restless and eager to go nuclear. We may not like it, but those are the nuclear geopolitics realities of that region. Nuclear weapons are now symbols of military and national power. Nuclear disarmament is political castration in the geopolitics of the 21st century.
There are over 23,000 nuclear weapons in the world and experts claim disarmament of those could be accomplished in a matter of days. But there are also over 40 conflicts around the world that could escalate into nuclear blackmail if political solutions are not found and those may take years if ever to resolve.
Nuclear testing is used to check out new designs and to send political messages that others pay attention to. South Africa developed nuclear weapons independently although it since gave them up. North Korea demonstrated that you do not have to be a rich and sophisticated country to achieve “nuclear power” status and reap political benefits.
As a result nuclear-armed Iran is a foregone conclusion despite wishful thinking of world leaders or the ineffective decrees of the United Nations. It is futile to imagine that Iran can be talked out of it. Not at this stage, despite public denials of Ahmadinejad himself. And let’s not kid ourselves. His domestic enemies are also proponents of nuclear power for Iran.
Basically, however, it is most unlikely that all the existing nuclear powers and states can be persuaded to give up nuclear weapons. Nuclear powers are here to stay and will certainly proliferate in the future. The more we insist on Iran giving it up the more likely it is to develop its nuclear arsenal. If we prevent it from doing it, Iran may even set up shop abroad in some convenient third world countries where it will be impossible to discover in time. Perhaps in Libya, Hungary or Venezuela. Judging how Poland and Czech Republic were treated recently it could happen anywhere. There are 90 countries that pay lip service to nuclear disarmament but object to inspection of their nuclear development activities. Many may secretly proliferate in the future North Korea style. In 2008 alone over 200 questionable incidents were identified suggestive of questionable if not illegal nuclear materials transactions.
The most terrifying is the potential emergence of stateless nuclear terror groups that may engage in political blackmail in third countries. The “Have Nukes, Will Travel” approach may become standard once nuclear weapons development is mastered by private entities serving the highest bidder. Iran already supports terrorist organizations operating outside its borders. This is why it is critical to watch closely the dealings of Ahmadinejad with Kim-Jong-Il of North Korea, Hugo Chavez of Venezuela, and Raul Castro of Cuba, who are not particular friends of the Unites States. Here is an opportunity for Iran to assist in providing nuclear weapons to other insurgents like the Basques in Spain or the Zapatistas struggling for the independence of the state of Chiapas from Mexico. It would then be simple to blackmail the United States into giving back California, Texas, Arizona and New Mexico to satisfy the long-standing Mexican Reconquista objectives.
The western powers are confronting Iran in its rush to nuclearize its arsenal. Talking to Ahmadinejad will probably be of little use, unlikely to yield an acceptable solution to what already amounts to nuclear blackmail. After all, his political motto “it is doable and we can do it”, seems to keep him in power despite known opposition. His stated objective to wipe Israel off the map needs no comment.
Let’s face it. The world is edging toward nuclear terror. It’s no longer a question of if, but when, where, and how it will happen. America, the hope and envy of the world, is a prime target, but in popular politics nuclear terror as a subject is taboo. There are no clear solutions to protect innocent populations. The visible political players are skirting the issue by paying lip service to unrealistic assumptions and economic sanctions. But there is a growing undercurrent of comprehension among men of vision and even large segments of the population that a new era of nuclear geopolitics is upon us.
If you accept the argument that we are entering a dangerous and unstable nuclear terror and blackmail era, it becomes obvious that traditional political processes are no longer adequate to navigate such unpredictable and treacherous environments. When you listen to the pronouncements of many politicians, you are lulled into the comfort of the traditional democratic process. Nuclear terror geopolitics changes all that. .When suicide bombers are in fashion, suicidal nuclear terrorists may not be far behind.
One thing should be clear, the top 400 to 600 global decision makers, whoever they may be, must be aware that a new era of nuclear geopolitics is upon us. Let us hope that while we have the chance we make sure that suitable experience and strong leadership will come into play to handle the increasingly undemocratic world of the immediate future. Adolescent leadership is just not acceptable. (1011 words)
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Posted on September 29th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
Ahhhh Jerry…remember the border war in the late 70’s with Vietnam. China pretty much got trashed in that one. I talked to a POW from the Korean War and he told me the only way he got captured was because they ran out of ammo. The Chinese dead was stacked 6 high and they just kept on coming wave after wave.
In any case the FIRSTEST with the MOSTEST wins eventually, no matter what the weapon system is.
Posted on October 1st, 2009 at 4:50 am
I totally agree with jerry…It is true. SInce 1949, chinese never lost a war since its independence. Infact, US lost 2 wars against chinese already! 1, said by jerry was in korea. The US, were trapped, surrounded…n had to withdraw!! 2, In vietnam….china also won. They chase the US out!!! No offence to the americans though. i really like ur military stuff!!! But one thing is this SITE! its a Racist site that offends other countries military advances!!! But lets just hope we all dont get into world war 3. Who knows, if it does happens…we might be conscritption and have to fight each other, but killing Without a proper reason is never an answer!!!
Posted on October 3rd, 2009 at 6:28 am
Hey Gibbs,
World war 2 was won not because of americans - but because of the russians- two thirds of German losses in materials and men were in the eastern front- you useless americans are brainless morons who lap up the crap put out by hollywood . should see photos of abrams tanks blown to pieces in iraq by ieds- same time remember the crap put out by hollywood jews and jew controlled media in u.s. about the Merkava tank- well in 2006 , hezbollah pissed all over the Merkavas with their russian made AT weapons. you americans christaoina dumbasses have yopur heads stuck up your ass while the jews (madoff) strip youir country clean and fuck your mothers and sisters in the ass
Posted on October 5th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
letz face it u all knw a photocopy can nva compete with its original counterpart.then again something u all must remember is there is certainly strength in numbers.lets not 4get future warz will be fought @ sea and in cities,not open battle field.so to the U.S jst focus on ur air superiority and naval dominance,and leave ur haterz to there opinions.cos as far as am concerned ure still in d lead when it comes to military hardwear…xoxoxoxoxo
Posted on October 6th, 2009 at 10:09 am
letz face it u all knw a photocopy can nva compete with its original counterpart.then again something u all must remember is there is certainly strength in numbers.lets not 4get future warz will be fought @ sea and in cities,not open battle field.so to the U.S jst focus on ur air superiority and naval dominance,and leave ur haterz to there opinions.cos as far as am concerned ure still in d lead when it comes to military hardware…xoxoxoxoxo
Posted on October 6th, 2009 at 10:13 am
this is a funny site…..kinda like the mean comments going around!!!! and OMAR!!! haha, i like ur attitude!!! But which side do i choose…..AMERICANS, RUSSIANS, CHINESES, or EUROPEANS!!!!!!!! wat happans if i say, americans are assholes…chinese are cheap bastards>>>> Russians are Bitches….EUropeans are Dick heads!!!…..NOW what….any mean comments….!!!! wooooohhhh!!!!!!
Posted on October 6th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
dude seriously uve got a problem,i think u need a psychological re-evaluation.i mean all d site wanted waz ur opinion the military hardware listed, and not u slandering the different races of the world………!!!
Posted on October 6th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Chinese tanks rocks…..whooooooo!!!!!!!! Hey ‘:D’ !!! dont u call chinese as cheap bastards!!! chinese rock ok!!! who the hell are u???!! and yes, this site is not for slandering different races moron!!!
Posted on October 7th, 2009 at 9:28 am
yeah!!! tell em tiffy…….u rock:).speaking of which has any of u guyz checkedout the x-51 supersonic cruise missile,i mean a weapon like dat could do maximum damage.think u guyz shuld check it out.in mai opinion it shuld b deployed in2 da missile shield system.or wat do u guyz tink???
Posted on October 7th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
So if the Chinese has it, it’s a gimmick. If it’s designed any bit similarly to a tank the Americans posesses, it’s a knock off, and if it has newer technology than the Americans, it’s bashed until Americans announce it as a new technology after minor tweakings and scoff at anyone else who calls it a “knock off”? Please stop the racism, even if you’re just desperately writing to get a pat on the back by a fellow Webmarican who shares the same disgusting mindset as you.
Posted on October 10th, 2009 at 12:57 am
Omar does have a point,
Rssians help absorbed german advantages in WWII, just as chinese helped absorbed Japanese military in the same war. As any historian can tell you, 80% of all japanese army is in china in WWII. The best troops were basically in china, americans mainly fight with japanese navy and naval airforce, as well as occasional land force stationed in islands/around philippines etc but they are low in numbers compared to fightings on the mainland.
During the 8 year resistance with japan:
The Kuomintang fought in 22 major engagements, most of which involved more than 100,000 troops on both sides, 1,171 minor engagements most of which involved more than 50,000 troops on both sides, and 38,931 skirmishes.
Posted on October 20th, 2009 at 1:58 am
its time to let the japanese rearm and rebuild their navy-why should the u.s. continue to subsidize the protection of the japanese home islands. We have enough on our plate now to deal with.
Posted on October 21st, 2009 at 2:26 am
This article is interesting. It is pathetic that confidence in M1A2 has to be established by means of funny (and racist) rhetorics, rather than objective observations.
Posted on November 1st, 2009 at 5:07 am
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