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If Looks Could Kill – The Sukhoi SU-47 Berkut

Posted by Capt. On February - 2 - 2008

su47 berkut The SU-47 is an amazing looking aircraft, especially while in flight. Nicknamed the Golden Eagle, the SU-47 has a reduced radar signature, thrust vectoring, advanced fly-by-wire technology, and most notably a very unique forward swept wing design. The Sukhoi SU-47 is extremely maneuverable at subsonic speeds and has a maximum speed of mach 1.6. The SU-47 can carry a variety of air-to-air and air-to-ground munitions.

Many sources try to compare the SU-47 to the F-22 Raptor. In reality, the F-22 Raptor is in a class of its own. Check out a video of the highly maneuverable Sukhoi SU-47 Berkut below.


34 Responses

  1. AIKPO, EFFIONG E. Said,

    WHY ARE BUILDING ARMS TO DESTROY HUMANITY WHEN MILLIONS ARE SUFFERING AND DYING OF HUNGER AND POVERTY IN AFRICA,ASIA AND SOUTH AMERICA. WHY ARE U INTENT ON DESTROYING HUMANITY AND GODS BEAUTIFUL CREATION. REMEMBER GOD IS WATCHING YOU ALL .

    Posted on February 4th, 2008 at 9:36 am

  2. Prince Said,

    Isn’t ‘Berkut’ a beautiful creation too ….

    Posted on March 19th, 2008 at 7:16 am

  3. john Said,

    I think that you should compare it with the raptor. i know the berkut isn’t as fast and it doesn’t have the stealthness of the F-22 however many sources say that Russia and not only have developed a radar which could detect it. So maybe in long range combat the berkut or firkin as it is also known could loose, however head to head I think that the raptor is in deep trouble. And if in a dogfight or in real life the Sukhoi manages to get close to the raptor the victory would be guaranteed due to it’s supreme manouverability.

    Posted on March 30th, 2008 at 4:23 pm

  4. Max Said,

    The US has a plane similar to this once.

    Back in the 80’s with the X-31.

    Posted on April 19th, 2008 at 11:41 pm

  5. John Said,

    “WHY ARE BUILDING ARMS TO DESTROY HUMANITY WHEN MILLIONS ARE SUFFERING AND DYING OF HUNGER AND POVERTY IN AFRICA,ASIA AND SOUTH AMERICA. WHY ARE U INTENT ON DESTROYING HUMANITY AND GODS BEAUTIFUL CREATION. REMEMBER GOD IS WATCHING YOU ALL .”

    I live in Africa, the Culture is that of violence and poverty. Look at the news, Africans don’t want International help and when they get it they blame the rest of the world for their problems. People are generally evil beens and live life purely on their own personal selfish needs. The fact of the matter is A.) the technology has helped millions and millions, yet some still choose violence regardless. B.) And because of that, if you want peace build better weapons!!!

    Unless the WHOLE world unites. Yes I do think the best thing for Africa is for the world to listen to Africa, do what the people say and leave them alone, just as they have asked.

    Anyway Both SU-37 and F-22 are marvals of engineering. Very interesting to see that both sides have choosen different combat styles. It is very evident in the next generation anti-air tech.

    Posted on June 2nd, 2008 at 7:52 pm

  6. Ryan Said,

    SU-37 is truly a unique aircraft. It just looks the part of a fighter. Sleek, aggressive, and not to mentions it’s ability to turn on a dime.

    Posted on June 6th, 2008 at 10:15 am

  7. Wingless Said,

    People misunderstand the F22 Raptor. Because it LOOK SIMILAR to 4th generation planes (it’s not a very sexy plane aesthetically) they think it’s not maneoverable. That’s a crock. It’s thrust vectored and ultra maneoverable, but with its high cost and because close-quarters dog fighting is a thing of the past you will not see American pilots pulling the same type of moves at air shows.

    The F22’s avionics and sensors are bar-none it’s strongest points. In war games it is taking out 4+ F18 Hornets before the F18’s even sense the F22…

    Posted on June 9th, 2008 at 9:01 pm

  8. Alex Said,

    This is truly an amazing aircraft, i mean finally the american f-22 has a match to fight now.

    Posted on July 2nd, 2008 at 3:19 pm

  9. Jonathan Said,

    The F-22 Raptor does have vector thrusting meaning it is highly manueverable, but the Berkut is still superior in the mobilty of dog fighting. The SU-47 utilizes thrust vectoring, its swept forward wing design allows for greater lift-to-drag ratio making it easier to turn, however this is where it loses some of its engines potential thrust. One thing about the F-22 raptor is that while it can take longer for radar to detect it, the misslies it launches are instantly detected, so that range the Raptor would have to get to before the missile would be effective would be within the operational area of the berkut to take out the Raptor. Heads up the berkut wins, if they develop a stealth missile (which is hard concept due to its compact size, its hard to manipulate angles) the Raptor will then have a legitimate chance. Im not dogging the F-22 Raptor at all, but the Berkut is operationally a more practical aircraft.

    Posted on January 12th, 2009 at 2:47 am

  10. Ivan Said,

    I like your biased posts, but this is foolish. Check some performance statistics. Everyone knows that Russians produce in quality, while Americans in quantity.

    Comparing 2 F-22s to 1 S-37 might be the way to go with your posts.

    Posted on February 21st, 2009 at 8:35 pm

  11. davesh tomar Said,

    i like su-47 coz of its attractive design but indias TEZAS is really fifth generation fighter plane. it can easily destroyed both su-47 n F-22. so i must say india is much much superior than russia n america.

    Posted on February 22nd, 2009 at 12:00 pm

  12. saberhagen Said,

    “Ivan Said,
    I like your biased posts, but this is foolish. Check some performance statistics. Everyone knows that Russians produce in quality, while Americans in quantity.

    Comparing 2 F-22s to 1 S-37 might be the way to go with your posts.”

    Ridiculous. Everybody knows the contrary. Dont look at the situation now, you (the rus) have fewer just because you dont have money, not because you focus on quality. Look back the cold war, it reflected exactly the doctrine of the two powers. CCCP always had LOTS of platform as well as personnels.

    Posted on April 4th, 2009 at 4:13 pm

  13. philonetic Said,

    saberhagen and Wingless are the ones to listen to here. All you have to do is look at the spec of the 2 and know that the F-22 is in a league of it’s own, and would dominate even multiple of any other existing aircraft made to date, including the Sukhoi. The Sukhoi is a 4th generation Aircraft, the F-22 is a technological marvel in it’s own class, the one who posted the video even agrees.
    I say merge their technologies. A more advanced Sukhoi(and I mean WAY more advanced) or an F-22 with a perfected inverted wing design. It’d shut everyone up atleast =)

    Posted on April 30th, 2009 at 5:22 pm

  14. Arthur Borges Said,

    Ivan, I used to teach English to folks at Dassault (or “AMDBA” as it is known in the trade). When we spoke of design philosophies, they said (in the 1970s!) the Soviets realized that, whatever the technologies at play, you had to count on saturating your enemy’s defenses. Moreover, there was an imperative to keep it simple because the quality of draftees was low, so the aircraft had to be easy to maintain. For their part, the French opted for high survivability and high technology that forced its clients to employ French technicians, which gave Paris control over them: usually buyers of French military aircraft were only sold one month’s worth of spare parts. And without French technicians, a client’s air force might fly for even less long. When I asked about the Americans, the answer was that they were halfway between the French and Soviet design philosophies.

    These comments, as noted, are now almost 40 years old and I know not what changes of attitude have intervened.

    That said, the most artful, visually pleasing lines are “Made in Russia”. And this tells me something about performance.

    Posted on May 9th, 2009 at 10:52 pm

  15. Arthur Borges Said,

    Philonetic: The spelling in your posting is “its” NOT “it’s”.

    It’s = It is

    “Its” matches “his” — you wouldn’t write “hi’s” as in “hi’s book and he’r pen” now would you?

    (Sorry, I’m a teacher and I get upset over silly little details like this one all the time)

    Posted on May 9th, 2009 at 10:56 pm

  16. Arthur Borges Said,

    Saberhagen, your reasoning is as nonlinear as the mindsets that made birds like the Sukhoi Flanker possible, but in this particular argument, your argumentation is a total nosedive.

    Why shouldn’t we look at the situation now where Russia is the second largest arms exporter — albeit a modest second to the currently almighty USA?

    Yes, Russia has “fewer” somethings which you don’t name, but who except the USA can account for half of the world’s entire arms spending all by itself? If this is an example of greatness, well, i would sooner lean towards some adjective to describe a particular pathological condition.

    Finally, in a socialist economy, it was cheaper to get some jobs done manually than to automate or computerize them. Now Russia has a market economy, but still, with USD 8 billion in 2008 arm sales, it is very hard to claim they don’t have the money.*

    *See: english.pravda.ru/russia/economics/17-07-2008/105807-arms-sales

    Posted on May 9th, 2009 at 11:08 pm

  17. SuzzyWoozy Said,

    Great opinions so far, unfortunatelly most of them are subjective (like mine below). The truth is that:
    1. we don’t have the whole picture of neither Russia’s nor USA’s military strategy (we can only make assumptions more or less accurate);
    2. nether SU nor F22 are “battle-ready” (SU is a little closer to that);
    3. There are no tests/war game/real fights involving both planes (only analysis on paper);
    4. The SU does not benefit of the propaganda F-22 has – just look to Discovery Channel and search for “The Future Weapons”, “The Joint Striker Program” etc, that praise F22/35 as the ultimate fighting machines – no mention whatsoever about SAAB Griphen, Eurofigher, Rafale, etc.
    5. On the other side: there are little sights of the alleged high-maneuvrability from F22/35 (I sow only one a cobra done by F22).

    The bottom line, as I see it (Arthur Borges said it also): the LOOK – which is most important for most of the readers let’s face it – is in Russian aviation.
    The future may decide about the performance – I hope (like AIKPO and John mentioned) that we will never find it through a bloody war.

    Posted on May 27th, 2009 at 8:10 am

  18. SuzzyWoozy Said,

    My country had recently joined NATO (Eastern Europe) and there is pressure to buy USA aircrafts. However, the Air Force in my country consder USA fighters the last in their preferences, after Sukhoi, Grippen and Europhighter – we will buy tough F’s, as the politics rules unfortnatelly.

    I am a retired air force navigator, so I heard these opinions a lot.

    Posted on May 27th, 2009 at 8:16 am

  19. Former AirForce Said,

    Now I see where everyones coming from and just wanted to post my own thing. One mentioned the X31, we abandoned the forward swept wing design because we did not do it right and so it was deemed a flawed design. I appreciate the Russian ingenuity in making a working fighter using this design. I honestly believe that Russia made itself a Superior Fighter, while our F22 is a Superior Fighter in it’s own right. If one could come up with an idea of combining the best qualities of the two jets it would be a scary sight. For one the Su47 is actually a bit more maneuverable due the canards located just behind the cockpit those operating in tandem with the pitch and yaw of the engines grants an amazing maneuverability, Plus the fact of the engines actually do move side to side slightly, not a whole lot but enough to enhance its ability The one flaw I see with the F-22 is the wings. Delta style wings ARE more stable but in lacking forward canards, at the same time it takes a touch longer for it to come down and pull up, i.e. what I call the caress. I am partial to both, but myself enjoy the F-16, the Thunderbirds are amazing, but I digress. I believe if we can just not neccessarily duplicate but manage to achieve the forward swept wings like the Berkut, I do believe that our jets would be nigh unstoppable. This is my belief, the forward swept wing design is an exceptional idea and if put in right, including the canards or something else that vectors will help alot with the stability issue.

    Posted on May 28th, 2009 at 3:08 am

  20. FlightDreamz Said,

    I’m certain this aircraft could put on some impressive air show displays and would be very maneuverable (and hence a more than capable dogfighter). But while is the Su-47 is a very nice design, forward swept wings have been done before (see the Grumman X-29). And while it has been abandoned by the U.S. (at least for now) for high subsonic drag, cost, and not enough advantages over swept or delta designs – my main problem with the Su-47 being a “F-22 killer” is it’s lack of stealth! Even if the airframe has some stealth features built into it (which I don’t see judging by the intakes and tail alone) the external carriage of weapons completely NEGATES any stealth features. A problem shared by the U.S. Navy’s F-18E&F’s as well.

    Posted on June 21st, 2009 at 10:26 am

  21. etsosie Said,

    I like this aircraft. Also believe that this type of aircraft maybe capable of vertical landing, not take off, but landing. Use of the this type of technology can obsolete the F-35 if use of the vector thrust and airframe structure is match to allow vertical takeoff. The unfortuate truth here is that SU designers are doing more advancements then US is. In this design, the aircraft is very basic. If they perfect the vertical landing and takeoff, they may have the capability to eliminate the complexity of the landing gear system and simplify base requirements.

    Think we are headed for a rude awakening….

    Posted on June 21st, 2009 at 3:24 pm

  22. Elrat Said,

    Su-47 is not a real combat aircraft – it is just a testing laboratory. The real Russian fifth-generation aircraft Pak-Fa is still far away from existence. It might and might not look like Berkut. We have to wait if we of course live that long. Russian air-force is in deep @@@@.

    Posted on July 6th, 2009 at 1:56 pm

  23. arussian Said,

    Being a Russian, I find myself forced to observe that Russian military sometimes produce quite nice experimental pieces while never bringing them to serial production, at least during last 20 years. So the whole discussion about comparing F-22 and this experimental built-up called Su-47 is then pointless.. It is very unfortunate. And happens also with subs or helicopters or.. you name it. So it is really a deep sh.. still..

    Posted on August 12th, 2009 at 10:48 pm

  24. Nick Ramus Said,

    I find both sets of technologies very important. The US will take nto account what the Russians are doing, we always have as the Russians have always copied, stole or approximated our designs. The T-34 tank was based on a US tractor chassis for instance. All nations learn from each other and vectoring and close in dogfights have their merits. US secret technologies are achieving something entirely different. Aircraft that fly 18,000 miles an hour and have no missles but projectiles that travel near the speed of light, lasers and plasma weapons. US has been seeking the new technologies while extending the old technologies at the same time.These new aircraft are flying already but they fly so fast they have not been seen only heard and contrails across the sky show that they have come and gone. I wonder what enemy we are building these air weapons? What enemies do we have that require such advanced technology in order to maintain air supremacy?

    Posted on August 25th, 2009 at 2:17 am

  25. Lr. R.C. Pilot Said,

    Maybe an enemy not from around here! ,Earth Vs. and all that!

    Posted on September 19th, 2009 at 8:01 pm

  26. HungrySeagull Said,

    I have seen this plane as a USA Experimental Plane that flew for a short time during testing over 20 years ago.

    The Russians have built a fine fighter using our technology. Hats off to them for their new Golden Eagle Warplane.

    I just hope that we are able to defeat this threat if necessary.

    Interesting concept. A Russian Dog fighter versus a Powerful Super cruiser like the USA F22.

    My only regret is that THEY build it, not the USA.

    Posted on October 14th, 2009 at 12:09 am

  27. Rajat Said,

    hello frnds…!!!

    i think all of u r forgetting B-2 bomber……..jus check it out……..n then post ur comments…….okay

    Posted on November 8th, 2009 at 5:58 am

  28. jim Said,

    @ rajat…………………..what the heck does the B2 hav anything to do with this?
    r u lost?

    Posted on November 19th, 2009 at 3:50 am

  29. squozzy Said,

    I think trying to compare the F22 and SU37 is like trying to compare chalk and cheese.
    The F22 is a 5th generation air superiority fighter with super advanced avionics while the su37 with its slower speed and the wide variety of weapons it is to carry is clearly not intended to tackle it, instead it is a 4th generation ground support and tank killing aircraft with the maneuverability to evade modern antiaircraft defences perhaps we should be comparing it to the F35

    Posted on January 7th, 2010 at 6:07 am

  30. squozzy Said,

    try agian I meant the Berkut

    Posted on January 7th, 2010 at 6:08 am

  31. Bruno Said,

    Please do some research before you posted your opinions.
    I do not need to augured which one is the best fighter yet the F22 or SU37. The evidences were revealed in the Iraq War. Some can make an augured that due to the pilots training. That was a poor excused.

    Posted on February 2nd, 2010 at 12:03 pm

  32. Rowan Said,

    People say close in dogfights are a thing of the past. WRONG!!!!! they said that about Vietnam, desert storm, and the middle eastern wars with Isreal and the arab states. the close in dogfights happened anyway. I also point out that the Russians DO have better missiles, but its a moot point since both missiles can pull 12 Gs and that is more than the Berkut or the Raptor or the F-35. They both have differing pholosophies-

    The Berkut: turning, wing load, good missiles, range and it looks like a pretty bird. And lets clear up that it DOES have stealth, if not as good as the F-22s.

    F-22:Super stealth, VTOL in some versions. Not very nimble but Super powerful arnament.
    Internal weapons bay = biig help.
    speed is relatively even.
    And so u people know i am canadian so i am not biased to either nation.

    Posted on February 7th, 2010 at 6:47 pm

  33. rowan Said,

    OMG sorry they cannot pull 12 gs my stupid mistake. and PS the raptor also has super avionics. but remember that these two aircraft are a relatively even match. tthe planes would likely start head on, merge. then the Su47 turns around first and throws a missile. the american either dodges or jams it. at this point he is turned. then its a firing match.

    Posted on February 21st, 2010 at 2:24 am

  34. akdj Said,

    because we love blowing one another up.
    :)

    Posted on March 4th, 2010 at 3:27 pm

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