Comments on: The Main Battle Tank of America – The M1-A1 and M1-A2 Abrams Tank Video http://www.futurefirepower.com/the-main-battle-tank-of-america-the-m1-a1-and-m1-a2-abrams-tank The Newest Military Weapon Systems Mon, 06 Sep 2010 00:30:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Chuck http://www.futurefirepower.com/the-main-battle-tank-of-america-the-m1-a1-and-m1-a2-abrams-tank/comment-page-1#comment-7655 Chuck Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:30:10 +0000 http://www.futurefirepower.com/military-weapons-vehicles/the-main-battle-tank-of-america-the-m1-a1-and-m1-a2-abrams-tank/#comment-7655 Abrams cant be hurt on the front. Top or rear only, bottom with mines or tracks. Abrams cant be hurt on the front. Top or rear only, bottom with mines or tracks.

]]> By: AndrewIsAnIdiot http://www.futurefirepower.com/the-main-battle-tank-of-america-the-m1-a1-and-m1-a2-abrams-tank/comment-page-1#comment-6531 AndrewIsAnIdiot Fri, 28 Aug 2009 06:44:30 +0000 http://www.futurefirepower.com/military-weapons-vehicles/the-main-battle-tank-of-america-the-m1-a1-and-m1-a2-abrams-tank/#comment-6531 Andrew's bias in this article is ridiculous, yes the Abrams has been tested but only against cheap export versions of Soviet tanks from the 70s. Andrew makes it sound like the Abrams has actually fought any tank of significant value, it hasn't, but neither has any real modern MBT. But the point is just because the Abrams fought Iraqi tanks without even night vision/IR equipment doesn't mean its "the greatest tank in existence." If you ask all NATO countries or poll armies of western civilization, all of them except for Australia will say the Leopard L2, especially the Leopard 2E. Which offers more maneuverability, smaller foot print, less fuel requirement, savings in weight from using none DE (Depleted Uranium) armor slats that the Abrams M2A1. While having similar levels of protections and using the same exact gun. And the simple fact is that the Leopard A2 is the tank world's F-16. It is simply the most widely exported Western MBT. Aside from Australia, Egypt and Saudi Arabia no one else really uses the Abrams in large numbers. Due to it's weight and its fuel consumption and the logistics required for it due to those two factors. Furthermore, the Abrams has been updated over time, but not anywhere as close to the number of versions as the Leopard 2 has. Even now the army has not updated the Abrams with the urban warfare kit you have posted on the top of your article. So your MISLEADING people with that picture, showing what it could have when it doesn't. A great Russian analysis of Abrams points out that the Abrams while in Iraq shows a vulnerability from engine fires from RPG hits and is exposed in the back area to RPGs especially. As that picture shows, the slat armor in the back is suppose to fix that issue but that kit has still not been installed on Abrams. And speaking of RPGs, an RPG-7VR has penetrated an Abrams, and RPG-29 has penetrated both an Abrams and a Challenger. Soviet tanks ever since the Afghanistan days have incorporated both ERA armor (Kontakt-5, kaktus, relikt)and active protection system to protect (Drozd, Areana) against RPG and anti tank missiles. So the best tank in world if you were to ask tankers of the world would probably be either the Leopard 2A6/E2 or the Merkava. As the Merkava has arguably the greatest crew survivability in the world with the engine being placed in the front and the concealed rear entry way on top of their active protection system (Trophy, Iron Fist). And the Merkava can engage helicopters and has a 40mm mortar that can be operated from within the tank. Andrew’s bias in this article is ridiculous, yes the Abrams has been tested but only against cheap export versions of Soviet tanks from the 70s. Andrew makes it sound like the Abrams has actually fought any tank of significant value, it hasn’t, but neither has any real modern MBT. But the point is just because the Abrams fought Iraqi tanks without even night vision/IR equipment doesn’t mean its “the greatest tank in existence.” If you ask all NATO countries or poll armies of western civilization, all of them except for Australia will say the Leopard L2, especially the Leopard 2E. Which offers more maneuverability, smaller foot print, less fuel requirement, savings in weight from using none DE (Depleted Uranium) armor slats that the Abrams M2A1. While having similar levels of protections and using the same exact gun. And the simple fact is that the Leopard A2 is the tank world’s F-16. It is simply the most widely exported Western MBT. Aside from Australia, Egypt and Saudi Arabia no one else really uses the Abrams in large numbers. Due to it’s weight and its fuel consumption and the logistics required for it due to those two factors.

Furthermore, the Abrams has been updated over time, but not anywhere as close to the number of versions as the Leopard 2 has. Even now the army has not updated the Abrams with the urban warfare kit you have posted on the top of your article. So your MISLEADING people with that picture, showing what it could have when it doesn’t. A great Russian analysis of Abrams points out that the Abrams while in Iraq shows a vulnerability from engine fires from RPG hits and is exposed in the back area to RPGs especially. As that picture shows, the slat armor in the back is suppose to fix that issue but that kit has still not been installed on Abrams.

And speaking of RPGs, an RPG-7VR has penetrated an Abrams, and RPG-29 has penetrated both an Abrams and a Challenger. Soviet tanks ever since the Afghanistan days have incorporated both ERA armor (Kontakt-5, kaktus, relikt)and active protection system to protect (Drozd, Areana) against RPG and anti tank missiles.

So the best tank in world if you were to ask tankers of the world would probably be either the Leopard 2A6/E2 or the Merkava. As the Merkava has arguably the greatest crew survivability in the world with the engine being placed in the front and the concealed rear entry way on top of their active protection system (Trophy, Iron Fist). And the Merkava can engage helicopters and has a 40mm mortar that can be operated from within the tank.

]]> By: Me http://www.futurefirepower.com/the-main-battle-tank-of-america-the-m1-a1-and-m1-a2-abrams-tank/comment-page-1#comment-6354 Me Tue, 18 Aug 2009 00:17:36 +0000 http://www.futurefirepower.com/military-weapons-vehicles/the-main-battle-tank-of-america-the-m1-a1-and-m1-a2-abrams-tank/#comment-6354 The Challenger II, Lepord II and Abrahms are all amazing tanks, and I'm sure each would play a specific role better then the next, but who cares? we're all on the same side, unless theres something I don't know about, right? All We have to know is that it's better then the T90, and Type 99 by a long shot, same with the Blank Panzor, or what ever, (The Korean tank) The Challenger II, Lepord II and Abrahms are all amazing tanks, and I’m sure each would play a specific role better then the next, but who cares? we’re all on the same side, unless theres something I don’t know about, right?
All We have to know is that it’s better then the T90, and Type 99 by a long shot, same with the Blank Panzor, or what ever, (The Korean tank)

]]> By: Cj http://www.futurefirepower.com/the-main-battle-tank-of-america-the-m1-a1-and-m1-a2-abrams-tank/comment-page-1#comment-3267 Cj Sat, 18 Oct 2008 15:51:00 +0000 http://www.futurefirepower.com/military-weapons-vehicles/the-main-battle-tank-of-america-the-m1-a1-and-m1-a2-abrams-tank/#comment-3267 I think the only tank in the world that could possibly beat the m1a2 in head-to-head is the Leopard 2, and even then I'm not sure. I think the only tank in the world that could possibly beat the m1a2 in head-to-head is the Leopard 2, and even then I’m not sure.

]]> By: US Air Force Airlift - Global US Military Aircraft http://www.futurefirepower.com/the-main-battle-tank-of-america-the-m1-a1-and-m1-a2-abrams-tank/comment-page-1#comment-2423 US Air Force Airlift - Global US Military Aircraft Tue, 27 May 2008 15:52:10 +0000 http://www.futurefirepower.com/military-weapons-vehicles/the-main-battle-tank-of-america-the-m1-a1-and-m1-a2-abrams-tank/#comment-2423 [...] to the large size/weight of most of the US military’s mechanized forces, it can only carry 1 M1A1 Abrams tank (70 tons).  These aspects of airlifting (weight/maintenance/costs) are major influencing factors on [...] [...] to the large size/weight of most of the US military’s mechanized forces, it can only carry 1 M1A1 Abrams tank (70 tons).  These aspects of airlifting (weight/maintenance/costs) are major influencing factors on [...]

]]> By: Brian http://www.futurefirepower.com/the-main-battle-tank-of-america-the-m1-a1-and-m1-a2-abrams-tank/comment-page-1#comment-2420 Brian Thu, 22 May 2008 17:24:14 +0000 http://www.futurefirepower.com/military-weapons-vehicles/the-main-battle-tank-of-america-the-m1-a1-and-m1-a2-abrams-tank/#comment-2420 Starscream was an F-22! End of story! Starscream was an F-22! End of story!

]]> By: Wynn http://www.futurefirepower.com/the-main-battle-tank-of-america-the-m1-a1-and-m1-a2-abrams-tank/comment-page-1#comment-2409 Wynn Sun, 18 May 2008 23:54:02 +0000 http://www.futurefirepower.com/military-weapons-vehicles/the-main-battle-tank-of-america-the-m1-a1-and-m1-a2-abrams-tank/#comment-2409 I never said the F-22 has VTOL, I stated it DOESN'T. And great thing wikipedia....right....You know it's user edited right? Trust me, neither were in the movie.... I never said the F-22 has VTOL, I stated it DOESN’T. And great thing wikipedia….right….You know it’s user edited right? Trust me, neither were in the movie….

]]> By: Joe http://www.futurefirepower.com/the-main-battle-tank-of-america-the-m1-a1-and-m1-a2-abrams-tank/comment-page-1#comment-2197 Joe Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:26:19 +0000 http://www.futurefirepower.com/military-weapons-vehicles/the-main-battle-tank-of-america-the-m1-a1-and-m1-a2-abrams-tank/#comment-2197 Also where does it say that the F22 has VTOL capabilities? I couldn't find that article. Thanks Also where does it say that the F22 has VTOL capabilities? I couldn’t find that article.

Thanks

]]> By: Joe http://www.futurefirepower.com/the-main-battle-tank-of-america-the-m1-a1-and-m1-a2-abrams-tank/comment-page-1#comment-2196 Joe Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:24:59 +0000 http://www.futurefirepower.com/military-weapons-vehicles/the-main-battle-tank-of-america-the-m1-a1-and-m1-a2-abrams-tank/#comment-2196 Both the Abrams and the F22 were used in Transformers. Although the tank was highly modified for the movie the base was an Abrams. Maybe you should try to do some research on the sources you provided yourself as Wikipedia clearly states that Transformers was the F22's Hollywood debut. At any rate thanks for visiting and for your comments. Both the Abrams and the F22 were used in Transformers. Although the tank was highly modified for the movie the base was an Abrams. Maybe you should try to do some research on the sources you provided yourself as Wikipedia clearly states that Transformers was the F22’s Hollywood debut.

At any rate thanks for visiting and for your comments.

]]> By: D. Wynn USMC (Recruit) http://www.futurefirepower.com/the-main-battle-tank-of-america-the-m1-a1-and-m1-a2-abrams-tank/comment-page-1#comment-2195 D. Wynn USMC (Recruit) Thu, 07 Feb 2008 09:43:37 +0000 http://www.futurefirepower.com/military-weapons-vehicles/the-main-battle-tank-of-america-the-m1-a1-and-m1-a2-abrams-tank/#comment-2195 oh yeah, the F-22 Raptor DOES NOT have the VTOL capability, it ONLY has the rear engines.... oh yeah, the F-22 Raptor DOES NOT have the VTOL capability, it ONLY has the rear engines….

]]> By: D. Wynn USMC (Recruit) http://www.futurefirepower.com/the-main-battle-tank-of-america-the-m1-a1-and-m1-a2-abrams-tank/comment-page-1#comment-2194 D. Wynn USMC (Recruit) Thu, 07 Feb 2008 09:42:54 +0000 http://www.futurefirepower.com/military-weapons-vehicles/the-main-battle-tank-of-america-the-m1-a1-and-m1-a2-abrams-tank/#comment-2194 first of all, to "transformers...."....it's not the Abrahms, it's a tank destroyer, ANOTHER MODEL....second, IT'S NOT THE DAMN F-22....it's the F-35 Joint strike Fighter, NOT the Raptor....you should actually try and do some research before you post dumb crap.... first of all, to “transformers….”….it’s not the Abrahms, it’s a tank destroyer, ANOTHER MODEL….second, IT’S NOT THE DAMN F-22….it’s the F-35 Joint strike Fighter, NOT the Raptor….you should actually try and do some research before you post dumb crap….

]]> By: Transformers Movie Promotes the Military, Propoganda Some Say… http://www.futurefirepower.com/the-main-battle-tank-of-america-the-m1-a1-and-m1-a2-abrams-tank/comment-page-1#comment-1059 Transformers Movie Promotes the Military, Propoganda Some Say… Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:10:45 +0000 http://www.futurefirepower.com/military-weapons-vehicles/the-main-battle-tank-of-america-the-m1-a1-and-m1-a2-abrams-tank/#comment-1059 [...] the likes of the newest military machines to storm the scene: Starring as actual transformers: the M1 Abrams tank, F22 Raptor, a Buffalo mine-protected vehicle, and the MH-53 Pave Low helicopter. These characters [...] [...] the likes of the newest military machines to storm the scene: Starring as actual transformers: the M1 Abrams tank, F22 Raptor, a Buffalo mine-protected vehicle, and the MH-53 Pave Low helicopter. These characters [...]

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